Italy: Right-wing parties win regional Italian election

[Acidbaron]

Not until after the destroyed the industrial sector by ridiculously empowering unions and employing a significant part of the country in the state in a country where public employees have constitutional protection from being fired.

And dealt with illegal immigration by giving everyone a grace period so they could become a legal resident.
Or the tons of corruption stories generally surrounding those parties.

And they often promote unsustainable programs to boost their numbers and have zero fiscal responsibility since they generally don't look ahead beyond one election cycle.


The cause of the rise of the right in Italy has many causes and whoever claims it purely has to do with hatred of the left or immigration is simply telling you lies. It goes quite a bit further than that and for that you have to look at what right parties are rising and how they differ even regards to ideology.

another interesting thing is the french-italian political feud going on right now. Where the Italian PM is actually supporting the left leaning gillet jeunes movements.

[Demsi]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French..._International
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnis...ocratic_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Socialist_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...Party_(Norway)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...arty_(Denmark)

Allow me to add another one to the list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Party_(Norway)

[Varitok]

Italy has had 62 governments since the end of World War 2. Italy isn't exactly the most politically stable country on the planet nor have they been that good at very many things since the end of the Renaissance Era.

[George Lucas]

Italy has had 62 governments since the end of World War 2. Italy isn't exactly the most politically stable country on the planet nor have they been that good at very many things since the Renaissance Era.

I'm sorry to ask this unpolite question, but are you mentally challenged?

[JohnBrown1917]

Allow me to add another one to the list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Party_(Norway)

It just got its first seat and has never been in power. lolwat

[Varitok]

I'm sorry to ask this unpolite question, but are you mentally challenged?

Italy has been in an identity crisis since the end of the Renaissance era. I'm sorry if it hurts feelings but it's true.

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It just got its first seat and has never been in power. lolwat

It's called straw grasping.

[Demsi]

It just got its first seat and has never been in power. lolwat

It's rather significant in the grand scheme of things, they've become very popular in the last few years, and i dont think it's going to stop anytime soon

[JohnBrown1917]

It's rather significant in the grand scheme of things, they've become very popular in the last few years, and i dont think it's going to stop anytime soon

And it has nothing to do with what I said.

[Acidbaron]

This is an interesting point I don't like to raise because I'd fear seeing it repeated since it is what the right accuses socialists off. Everyone expected New Democracy to win the elections in 2000. They had a significant lead in the polls for nearly a year in advance and even had a clear lead in early polling only to lose late in counting.
What changed? PASOK passed a law that fastracked giving citizenship to immigrants just a few months before the elections.

It was a bandaid, it happened in Belgium to since often these parties tend to follow each other. It was so that the right couldn't bring into issue the amount of illegal immigrants residing something they would deal with but since actually deporting people was against their core base this was the only thing they could really do, and it backfired badly.

You still have quite some immigration criticism from that direction but it is generally spearheaded by greens and others on the left rarely those socialist parties.

[George Lucas]

Italy has been in an identity crisis since the end of the Renaissance era. I'm sorry if it hurts feelings but it's true.

I don't really care for Italy as a nation, I'm just shocked someone could be so unaware of how much Italian culture contributed to modern western culture.

[Aggrophobic]

Well de facto that is true, but given how the support party system works in Sweden, they have for all intents and purposes.

No, not at all.

[Acidbaron]

Italy has been in an identity crisis since the end of the Renaissance era. I'm sorry if it hurts feelings but it's true.

To be fair that's not what you said, you said that they haven't been good at "many things recently". What i can understand perfectly comes across as simply nation bashing.

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I don't really care for Italy as a nation, I'm just shocked someone could be so unaware of how much Italian culture contributed to modern western culture.

To be honest i can understand the north vs south italy mentality somewhat but the whole "i'm from napoli!" "i'm from sicili!" etc etc nonsense is just that nonsense. Especially when the WC is on than suddenly they are all Italians but in every other time they are from whatever region to hail first, as if there is such a big difference.

[Puupi]

No, not at all.

Yes they are, or are you saying Sweden is living in a social democratic dictatorship? And moderate dictatorship before that?

No, the support parties play a big role as well, even though they don't have actual ministers in the cabinet.

[George Lucas]

To be honest i can understand the north vs south italy mentality somewhat but the whole "i'm from napoli!" "i'm from sicili!" etc etc nonsense is just that nonsense. Especially when the WC is on than suddenly they are all Italians but in every other time they are from whatever region to hail first, as if there is such a big difference.

There are some strong cultural differences. Besides Italian there are some similar dialects in central Italy, but in the north you have Venetian and Gallo-Italic which are different languages and the same is true for Neapolitan, Sicilian and Sardinian. Cuisine, industry, architecture and more is also quite different in those regions, more even so than in Germany, because South Italy was a completely foreign country to Northern Italians, who where completely entwined with the Holy Roman Empire for a long time and then became a plaything between France and the Habsburgs or people from the Papal States who pretty much lived like the antiquity had never ended, while Sicily and Sardinia had been ruled by Greeks and Muslims for centuries.
The Italian nation was more of an ideal, that was constructed in opposition to foreign powers, like France and the Habsburgs, meddling in the states on the Apennine Peninsula. It was meant as a restoration of Roman traditions and after this ideal was shattered with the conclusion of the second world war, Rome became the foreign power, meddling in Lombardy, Sicilia and everywhere outside of Latium. Regionalism will increase in Italy even more.

[Puupi]

Being "half Swedish" means you know how it works in Sweden? I don't think so.

If you could read that sentence you surely could read the one above it as well.

[Coolthulhu]

Leftists and anti-vaxxer pauperists got destroyed, then? Excellent.

[ati87]

The country that voted Berlusconi in 3 times so I'm not sure what people expected. Italy is a joke....they keep on voting for people that are openly corrupt AND get convicted for corruption.

It's a bit telling isn't it about a country that somehow manages to keep on voting for the guy that is Trump on steroids minus the brain damage.