UK: Shamima Begum: Bring me home, says Bethnal Green girl who left to join Isis

[Strawberry]

I loved the news I just saw which had her saying 'its not very fair that they are doing this'... neither is chopping the heads off people just because they love dudes.. but your husband and buddies did enough of that and you had no issue with it!

honestly, she can get fucked. she has no place here. and trust me the answer is simple. shoot her. even if she is allowed back. she will be a huge drain on the system because of the media surrounding this case, the public will want her watched to make sure she's not up to anything, and she will have to be protected from the nazi idiots who will try something too... absolute drain on resources. just have her nyxed.

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yes, I was a rebellious teen too! I got into trouble for messing around with BB guns, I got a tattoo, I engaged in underage drinking.. I didn't leave behind a nation that had cared for me and raised me to take up arms with the enemy and behead homosexuals..

there is a slight variance there.

I think you would've done it if you had someone close who brainwashed you into terrorism. Teens are easy to persuade.

[Post]

The fact that anyone is even trying to argue letting her come back is a horrible sign.

[Wilian]

At 15 you're supposed to be stupid. But not "lets join a terrorist organization that has spread like wildfire and conducts regular terror attacks all around the world" stupid.

That's the sort of stupid that cannot be credited to age anymore. You're not a child at 15 anymore. In Finland you become criminally liable for your own actions at age of 15 for a good reason.

[Lollis]

The fact that anyone is even trying to argue letting her come back is a horrible sign.

Most people aren't doing that, she shouldn't be allowed back. But if a situation exists in which the UK has no choice, then we cannot just deny her entry. She'll go to prison obviously, but we cannot just shut our doors if it turns out that she can't actually get citizenship from somewhere else.

[Realitytrembles]

I loved the news I just saw which had her saying 'its not very fair that they are doing this'... neither is chopping the heads off people just because they love dudes.. but your husband and buddies did enough of that and you had no issue with it!

honestly, she can get fucked. she has no place here. and trust me the answer is simple. shoot her.

Agreed. Lucky for her the Kurds didnt get hold of her. You do not f with those guys.

I went to TTU briefly. I met this man, learned a lot about the Kurdish people. Much respect to them.

https://www.tntech.edu/news/releases...kurdish-people

[tumppu]

In UK law we can revoke her citizenship if she has a claim to different citizenship. She doesn't actually have to have the citizenship.

As far as I know, she does not have a claim in another citizenship, other that saying she could be bangladeshi, because of her father? She does not HOLD any other citizenship.

[Ealyssa]

I think she should get jail time or worse.

Pretty sure her sex slave status is allready worse...

[Post]

Most people aren't doing that, she shouldn't be allowed back. But if a situation exists in which the UK has no choice, then we cannot just deny her entry. She'll go to prison obviously, but we cannot just shut our doors if it turns out that she can't actually get citizenship from somewhere else.

I'm cool with life in prison as well if that's the case.

[Jshadowhunter]

Reap what you sow.
She deserves 0 sympathy.

[tumppu]

The fact that anyone is even trying to argue letting her come back is a horrible sign.

I'm not even saying you should, but that there are legal percussions if you don't . I'm fully of the mind, that anyone dabbling in terrorism SHOULD be disenfranchised.

Problem with this particular chick is, that she seems to only have uk citizenship. If they can make it stick that they can take it away, I hope we can utilize it elsewhere. Terrorism should be eliminated in the cradle. This means cutting off these isis brides as well. Oh that's terrible and they're just kids? Fuck that. Nazis were hung and shot while in they're 20's. We can do that too. We SHOULD do that too. Religious terrorism is every bit as bad as fucking hitler and stalin. Kill and cut off all who support that shit.

[Steelangel]

At 15 you're supposed to be stupid. But not "lets join a terrorist organization that has spread like wildfire and conducts regular terror attacks all around the world" stupid.

Not just "joined the organization" but is utterly unrepentant for it.

"When I saw my first severed head, it didn't faze me"
"I only got upset when they started killing Muslims instead of non-Muslims"

Let her rot with her choices.

[valax]

If it was underage white girls who were groomed would people still have the "let them rot" attitude or would we be calling them victims whilst Tommy Robinson self-promotes off their backs?

I'd say let them rot harder and louder , no excuse for white people to go and breed with isistards scum , other than being completely fucked up in the head . So no your race bait doesn't work here , anyone getting in affairs with terrorists can die under artillery fire and I will sleep better knowing it's happening

[Monster Hunter]

I snipped your post because it is a page full of text, are you stupid?

I know the fucking law, im not arguing against the fucking law, im arguing against whether or not she actually HAS claim to citizenship, of which NOTHING has been confirmed.

When the family confirms it, or when the Bangladeshi government confirms it, then sure absolutely go a-fucking-head. Until then, it isnt confirmed.

Her parents are Bangladeshi, that was confirmed. You know when you move country's they record were you come from right?

Where her parents came from was never in question. The question was is she a citizen already.

But as I've shown 3 times now The UK law doesn't care as long as the person is able to get a new one. We don't class it as making them stateless.

Now you can scream Technicality all you want, but you forget those laws arn't treaty laws, there only as binding as a nation allows them to be. The US for example barley recognises any of them, mostly due to its constitution stuff around foreign laws yada yada.

In the UK the Crown is sovereign, not the UN, not the international people, and not the court of public opinion. That's crowns power is vested in the Secretary to be exercised within our law.

She has 28 days to appeal. Or its down to Bangladesh if she goes stateless or not.

Im Litteraly showing you the law and the government's position, they have the experts in this, its there position.

[Realitytrembles]

the kurds did get a hold of her. they are the ones holding her in the camp. Its lucky the Shia Militia's didn't get hold of her. The Hezbollah chaps were floating families down the euphrates.

I stand corrected. Badasses in a fight, and merciful. A nation of superheroes.

[Monster Hunter]

As far as I know, she does not have a claim in another citizenship, other that saying she could be bangladeshi, because of her father? She does not HOLD any other citizenship.

I posted the law, Read it. We don't care if she has it only if she has a claim.

[ranzino]

I posted the law, Read it. We don't care if she has it only if she has a claim.

UK's posture of "we have opinion she has a claim" will be part of the appeal IMHO.

[Monster Hunter]

I think you would've done it if you had someone close who brainwashed you into terrorism. Teens are easy to persuade.

Being brainwashed wasn't a legal defence for the Nazis, its not a legal defence for ISIS.

You don't get to commit genocide on yhzadi's and shia's, Lob gays off building and blow up an arena full of kids. Then get to pull the brain washed card.

Sorry but I'll have sympathy for the devil, before I have any sympathy for her.

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UK's posture of "we have opinion she has a claim" will be part of the appeal IMHO.

It's law not opinion. UK Court, UK law.

[Strawberry]

Being brainwashed wasn't a legal defence for the Nazis, its not a legal defence for ISIS.

You don't get to commit genocide on yhzadi's and shia's, Lob gays off building and blow up an arena full of kids. Then get to pull the brain washed card.

Sorry but I'll have sympathy for the devil, before I have any sympathy for her.

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It's law not opinion. UK Court, UK law.

I don't think nazi soldiers were 15 year old teen girls.

[Monster Hunter]

I don't think nazi soldiers were 15 year old teen girls.

there were actually at the battle of Berlin female children fighting.

to Quote EA " don't you know your history?"

here's a dead German woman in a German APC at the battle of Berlin


and the history

In the last days of the war, some BDM girls, just like some boys of the male Hitler Youth (although not nearly as many), joined with the Volkssturm (the last-ditch defense) in Berlin and other cities in fighting the invading Allied armies, especially the Soviets. Officially, this was not sanctioned by the BDM's leadership which opposed an armed use of its girls even though some BDM leaders had received training in the use of hand-held weapons (about 200 leaders went on a shooting course which was to be used for self-defense purposes). After the war, Dr. Jutta Rüdiger denied that she had approved BDM girls using weapons, and this appears to have been the truth.[citation needed]

Some BDM girls were recruited into the Werwolf groups which were intended to wage guerrilla war in Allied-occupied areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_German_Girls

did you legit think the Nazis were above using female child soldiers ?

and this is a nice article, bit over the top but a nice read.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ht-Hitler.html

[caervek]

I don't think nazi soldiers were 15 year old teen girls.

I don't see why gender is an excuse for crimes against humanity...