If I am not mistaken we already have people in Europe who have lost one of the 2 alleles of the gene, and that's about 10% to 16% of the population in northern countries. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...17305104#f0020
It's a relatively recent mutation too which occured between 800 years ago and 4000 years ago.
Don't know about losing both alleles though.
Doesn't this sort of thing need to be proven before people can claim it's true?
Nice post. . . . .
If you're alive but the planet is dying then our space program has failed miserably.
In America, Europe, and Japan the population of people is decreasing if you don't take into consideration of immigrants. I think Japan and Norway are in panic mode cause they're afraid without young people then who's going to pay for social security.Where did you learn the population is decreasing? Doesn't sound right. Perhaps you mean the population growth is decreasing? Which is and has been expected.
That's because you think yourself as being among the less dumb, and as such would find yourself among peers.
You would not be among peers. You would be, for them at the very least, among the said dumb people of the world that they are eager to weed out.
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Yes, but we haven't had the ability to mass-produce them yet.
We fix it. If the planet is dying, we fix it. If we're living forever, that means we have forever to figure it out. And if we can't? We figure out how to go somewhere else and make sure we don't fuck up that planet. We turns Mars into something livable, we create space colonies, we do what it takes to survive. Any person who dies today has less and less chance to see the turning point where we hit the next stages of life extension.
My concern with life extension is cultural stagnation. While I would like my older relatives to live longer than the years they realistically have left, imagine someone from the 20s who supported Jim Crow sticking around to this day.
Perhaps I'm wrong though. Who knows what a few centuries would do to a person's political and cultural beliefs. Take our hypothetical racist and give him centuries to travel the world and see new peoples, ideologies and cultures and maybe he will be persuaded to think in a more egalitarian, colorblind way. Who really knows? But if we want to pursue life extension and biological longevity, we really need to discuss issues like this and how to hypothetically solve them.
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I'm not saying this is how you get Khan.
But this is how you get Khan.
Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.
Just, be kind.
I feel this one is really hard to adequately figure out, or even get close to what it would be like. Based on my own experience of 35 years I sometimes see myself no longer enjoying the things I did enjoy as a younger person, feeling a certain exhaustion to new developments, less excitement and so on, mobile phones are a good example of that. I remember how I was extremely excited for my new motorola razr v3 back when it was just released and compare that to my reaction going from Nexus 6P to Samsung S8+ ... nowhere near the same.
Now mulitply that with loads and loads of other topics and now imagine me being 200 years old, I'd be sick of it all I imagine. At the same time, a single human living forever would probably have that (if not being kept in a lab being probed and checked for my secrets) but I wouldn't exist in a vacuum - if the majority would be immortal, society and how we perceive time would change drastically as well.
I see a lot of constructs such as money to go away in that scenario, unless they'd keep immortality to paying customers only - then it would change the entire conversation again - probably that would be a good start, would it be free for everybody or a service to be paid for?
@Chrotesque As to the 'getting tired' of things or not keeping up with new trends, I can see that, but at the same time there are people out there who are always jumping on the next bandwagon and seem way too excited about things. I'm personally more interested in a comfortable routine with things functioning well, and slow, incremental improvements over time, but that doesn't mean there aren't things out there I'd love to see pop up. Plus, who knows what they'd come up with in a hundred years? Surely something would hit the perfect "I LOVE IT!" moment for a lot of us in that much time.