Venezuelan Military Fires On Protesters, Killing 2, In Confrontation Over Aid

[derpkitteh]

I just love how no one does anything.

I think the moment you prevent aid for your people, the global community should move to shut your country down. Fuck your sovereignty, these are human beings. We are one, and we will destroy you.

there shouldn't be a "global community", fuck globalism.

i would like for us to help stabilize south america, so we quit getting sent all the fucking migrants and shit. but i don't want our military there, send them some guns and shit, tell the people do like we did when we wanted our country. our people rose up and fought of the british, they can rise up and fight off some sniveling communists.

[JohnBrown1917]

There's a special place in hell for those defending venezuelan regime.

You guys are the reason dictators exist.

I don't see anybody here actually defending the regime.

[LeGin Tufnel]

there shouldn't be a "global community", fuck globalism.

i would like for us to help stabilize south america, so we quit getting sent all the fucking migrants and shit. but i don't want our military there, send them some guns and shit, tell the people do like we did when we wanted our country. our people rose up and fought of the british, they can rise up and fight off some sniveling communists.

Ummm.. what nationality are you, out of interest?

[derpkitteh]

Ummm.. what nationality are you, out of interest?

i'm from the US, and i'm well aware of the shit the CIA pulled in south america back in the 80's.

if i had a say, every current and former member would be punished for high treason for all the shit they've done everywhere.

[sam86]

No. Stop sending US troops to stupid places. Just let all the hellhole countries fix themselves.

they wouldn't been hellhole in first place if not for the 'help' of 1st world countries
also i'm not sure about venzuella situation, i know that where i exist is f8cked thanks to USA mainly and france 2nd, but i doubt that venzuella - or for that matter any 3rd world country - has real power over its borders, and not just toy to be abused by world powers, as literally entire human history always happen
And before u get it wrong i don't blame USA for being wolf, i blame my own country for being sheep, because again in case of egypt, egypt used to be britain b8tch, when UK fell of power after ww2, instead of powering itself - and it had golden chance to - usa played its cards right and egypt became USA bitch, and i bet if usa fall tomorrow we will be china b8tch, until ppl decide to stop being f8cking sheep

[Ozyorkbourne]

When you send troops into a region that is home to the most popular, most fanatical, and most cult-like religion yes.

Venezuela isn’t that. Here you have a clear enemy and a side the people can rally to.

Not being funny but that was the Libya objective. That didn't go so well. Left a bad enough taste in Western military powers to avoid any real boots-on-the-ground intervention for a while I think.

[igualitarist]

I don't see anybody here actually defending the regime.

When people go full retard on conspiracy theories in order to delegitimate any foreign intervention in Venezuela, then yeah, they are defending Maduro's regime.

Thats the kind of narrative he uses to remain in power.

[JohnBrown1917]

When people go full retard on conspiracy theories in order to delegitimate any foreign intervention in Venezuela, then yeah, they are defending Maduro's regime.

Thats the kind of narrative he uses to remain in power.

Conspricies? What ones? We know the US has used aid to smuggle weapons in other countries, these are not theories.
They are accepting aid from other countries.

[Logwyn]

You guys are way to salty you can't come up with anything to actually defend what the US is doing.

How sad.

The Venezuelan presidential crisis is not a USA only thing though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_V...nition_map.svg

That's an awful lot of other countries.

What this boils down do is Maduro trying to seize power through a fraud. The General Assembly of Venezuela saying that it was fraud and Maduro is not legitimate. Follows what is laid out in the Constitution. Maduro won't step down. The people of Venezuela take to the streets. International Community line up.

Why would you want the gold given back at the moment? Would not be given to the people of Venezuela that's for sure. That's for after this mess gets fixed.

Who really get screwed in all this is the common person just wanting to live their life and have something eat.

What about the Russian bombers in Venezuela? The rumors of Russian mercenaries guarding Maduro? Cuban troops in country? Sounds like someone else is already intervening.

[derpkitteh]

Why? What do you have to gain isolating yourself there? Humanity needs to come together and do something meaningful, like escaping this trap called Earth, continue its destiny as explorers and colonizers of space.

Globalism good. Open borders, mix races, time to put the petty squabbles in the past and move one, the hell...

i should say i'm all for being friends with europe, and countries that have a culture that meshes with the US's.

but if we're to have a global community, it should be our ideals they uphold, our culture. our freedom, freedom of thought and speech.

that will never happen, so i'd rather us stick to our own(our own being those who share our culture.)

[JohnBrown1917]

The Venezuelan presidential crisis is not a USA only thing though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_V...nition_map.svg

Thats nice, the US is still doing most of the damage right now with it intervention.

What this boils down do is Maduro trying to seize power through a fraud. T
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He won the election, some other countries not claiming he did not.. well. not really seeing why that should change anything. The US supports way more blatent dictatorships, so do all the countries you have listed, its a bullshit excuse, and you know it

[NED funded]

Just like your post, takes one to know one.

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You guys are way to salty you can't come up with anything to actually defend what the US is doing.

How sad.

The US in coordination with other countries in the region are delivering much-needed aid to the Venezuelan people. Maduro is burning it.

Not sure why you continue to support a dictator like that, but I guess everyone has their own thing.

[Shalcker]

The US in coordination with other countries in the region are delivering much-needed aid to the Venezuelan people. Maduro is burning it.

Anti-Maduro militia was burning it, sorry.

Maduro just stops it from getting into his country.

[igualitarist]

Conspricies? What ones? We know the US has used aid to smuggle weapons in other countries, these are not theories.
They are accepting aid from other countries.

Unless you show me USA is smuggling weapons into Venezuela inside the human aid containers, then thats just conspiracy bullshit.

Why didn't Maduro just open the containers to show the world the weapons, instead of putting fire on them ? I'll answer you, because he is lying.

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Says the guy whose country just elected a fucking nazi.

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Yep, a nazi that defends gun rights, free press, free market, free speech and smaller government.

I think you need to go back to school, or maybe, just stop consume the medias outlets you consume, because they are lying to you.

[Nalera]

If a had penny for every time I heard someone from a democratic western country defend socialist Venezuela or Russia.

[JohnBrown1917]

Unless you show me USA is smuggling weapons into Venezuela inside the human aid containers, then thats just conspiracy bullshit.

Why didn't Maduro just open the containers to show the world the weapons, instead of putting fire on them ? I'll answer you, because he is lying

Irrelevant, the point the US can't be trusted when providing aid to countries they want to overthrow.

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If a had penny for every time I heard someone from a democratic western country defend socialist Venezuela or Russia.

I hope you understand the difference between critizing the US interference and defending Maduro.

But you probably don't.

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The US in coordination with other countries in the region are delivering much-needed aid to the Venezuelan people. Maduro is burning it.

Not sure why you continue to support a dictator like that, but I guess everyone has their own thing.

I love how you keep putting words in my mouth.

And they are accepting aid from other countries without problem, maybe you need to accept the US might be a problem, or do you want to keep ignoring the US history? Or how blatent the US actions are here? Just be honest for once.

And your source for Venuzula burning the food supplies?

[NED funded]

Murderous regime.

[kjhiulapo]

Murderous regime.

People firing guns on the street shock. Is it downtown LA?

I've seen nothing so far in Venezuela which doesn't happen in the US on a regular basis.

[Shalcker]

Red Cross denounces unsanctioned use of its emblems to smuggle US aid to Venezuela

The largest international aid organization has demanded that activists at the Venezuela-Colombia border not use the insignia of the Red Cross, which isn’t participating in what Caracas has dismissed as a US “propaganda show.”

The Red Cross learned that some “people not affiliated” with the agency are trying to disguise themselves as aid workers to smuggle cargo for Venezuela’s opposition across the closed frontiers.

“They might mean well but they risk jeopardizing our neutrality, impartiality & independence,” the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies said.


IFRC Intl. Federation #RedCross #RedCrescent ✔ @Federation
We’ve learned that there are some people not affiliated w/ @cruzrojacol & @CruzRojaVe wearing Red Cross emblems at Colombia-#Venezuela & Brazil-Ven border.
We urge them to stop doing this. They might mean well but they risk jeopardizing our neutrality, impartiality & independence

Earlier, Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza stressed that the UN and the International Red Cross are not participating in the “propaganda show” staged by the United States. “It is clearly an action with political objectives, it could never be described as a humanitarian action,” he said on Twitter, accusing the governments involved in the US plot of violating the principles of the UN charter.

The government of Nicolas Maduro has sealed off the borders with neighboring Colombia, Brazil and the Dutch island of Curacao, trying to prevent US shipments from entering the Latin American State. Caracas denounced the ‘aid’ as a highly-publicized attempt to foster division and chaos, and possibly to use it as a cover to smuggle arms to the country’s opposition.

[JohnBrown1917]

Murderous regime.

As terrible as that is, probably should not enter a country that your own country is hostile too.