Should Netflix count as TV or Film?

[Doctor Amadeus]

Should Netflix count as TV or Film Emmys or Oscars?

I guess there’s possibly a move to try to get Netflix disqualified from the Oscars.

[nymphetsss]

I said oscars but i feel like the emmys might have more integrity , most oscar winners now are just complete trash

[lokithor]

It all depends on the program. If its a series, then The Emmys. If its a movie, then The Oscars.

[Jonnusthegreat]

Interesting that there isn't a choice for both, which is what they do.

[exochaft]

Netflix is starting to fill the void where they'll fund projects that the big production companies wouldn't touch, whether it's a movie or a series. And it rubs those production companies the wrong way, especially if it encroaches on their prized awards ceremonies. Content created and distributed through a medium like Netflix has moved away from "direct-to-video" status to actually good content that rivals what big production companies put out.

With respect to what awards they would fall under, it's both, depending upon the content.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Should Netflix count as TV or Film Emmys or Oscars?

I guess there’s possibly a move to try to get Netflix disqualified from the Oscars.

There is a move to get Netflix movies banned from the Oscars...but that has nothing to do with the question you asked in the poll.

Movies go to the Oscars
TV shows go to the Emmy's

Netflix does both Movies and TV...so the answer is both.

Steven Spielberg, however, really hates that movies can be released on streaming services instead of the theaters so he's trying to get the Oscars to change the rules so that only movies that play in theaters for a certain length of time can get nominated for Academy Awards. Basically, he thinks that a movie made for a Streaming Platform is a "TV Movie". Now, I love Spielberg...I think he's a fantastic director...but on this issue the man is simply out of touch.

I think this whole thing is just another indication of how obsolete the Academy Awards are now. If they don't want to go the way of the Dinosaur...they need to evolve.

[PACOX]

Simply depends on if they material is a movie or show. Treat it the same way you'd HBO.

The Oscar heads that say Netflix doesn't belong at the Oscars need to get over themselves. Half the stuff at the Oscars is limited/short released stuff that hasn't penetrated the mainstream anyway. The Oscars suffers a lot of the same stuff the Grammy suffers from. A bit out of touch with most movie goers are actually watching, only enough room to recognize a very finite band of movies that usually hit specific tropes to get nominated in the first place. It sort of stiffles good works when theres many excellent contenders but only one can win, no ranked recognition.

[Super Kami Dende]

I just call it shows. "I watched a Show on Netflix" "I streamed a show last night" etc.

[Endus]

There is a move to get Netflix movies banned from the Oscars...but that has nothing to do with the question you asked in the poll.

Movies go to the Oscars
TV shows go to the Emmy's

Netflix does both Movies and TV...so the answer is both.

Steven Spielberg, however, really hates that movies can be released on streaming services instead of the theaters so he's trying to get the Oscars to change the rules so that only movies that play in theaters for a certain length of time can get nominated for Academy Awards. Basically, he thinks that a movie made for a Streaming Platform is a "TV Movie". Now, I love Spielberg...I think he's a fantastic director...but on this issue the man is simply out of touch.

I think this whole thing is just another indication of how obsolete the Academy Awards are now. If they don't want to go the way of the Dinosaur...they need to evolve.

The real issue with Spielberg's argument is they have no issue giving awards to arthouse films that play in a handful of theaters for a short run. Yet if Netflix tries to put a film in theaters to the minimum expectation for the Oscars to qualify, they want to exclude them anyway. It's an obvious double standard, and one that's about the cinema as a venue/experience, not on filmmaking as a craft, and all the rewards are about the latter, not the former.

[Zaktar]

It should count as whichever it is structured as.

[munkeyinorbit]

I just call it shows. "I watched a Show on Netflix" "I streamed a show last night" etc.

Then you are doing it wrong and should be ashamed of yourself.

[Super Kami Dende]

Then you are doing it wrong and should be ashamed of yourself.

But they are shows >.>

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

The real issue with Spielberg's argument is they have no issue giving awards to arthouse films that play in a handful of theaters for a short run. Yet if Netflix tries to put a film in theaters to the minimum expectation for the Oscars to qualify, they want to exclude them anyway. It's an obvious double standard, and one that's about the cinema as a venue/experience, not on filmmaking as a craft, and all the rewards are about the latter, not the former.

And apparently Netflix is going to do exactly that with their Scorsese's "the Irishman"...they're going to do a theatrical run for it just because of all this noise from Spielberg and others. Scorsese, another old school director like Spielberg, doesn't seem to share Spielberg's rather narrow point of view on this issue.

The Academy is 90 years old now...and it's really showing its age. This is just the latest in a long line of things that shows that they just aren't adapting to the times. Might be time to take it off life-support

[Firatha]

It all depends on the program. If its a series, then The Emmys. If its a movie, then The Oscars.

End thread.

[Cosmic Janitor]

That depends entirely on the show in question.. as these are different formats.

That being said, if you want to make the artificial distinction between tv and film for a price that has lost of it's meaning anyway, then I would apply the same standards direct to DVD or TV films get. The next question is .. has there ever been an original netflix film that is actually worthy of an oscar?

[Appelgren]

I dont see the logic here.

If its a movie = Oscars
If its a tv-show = Emmys

Add a third option, "Both, depending on if its a fucking movie or a show", or just close the thread.

[callipygoustp]

There are people that think Netflix doesn't have content in both categories? WTF

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

There are people that think Netflix doesn't have content in both categories? WTF

It has more to do with the fact that Steven Spielberg, among others, doesn't think that Movies made for Streaming services like Netflix are "real movies"

[Endus]

I dont see the logic here.

If its a movie = Oscars
If its a tv-show = Emmys

Add a third option, "Both, depending on if its a fucking movie or a show", or just close the thread.

The Academy has always tried to restrict consideration for an Oscar to cinematic releases, not made-for-TV movies and the like. They're trying to argue that Netflix is the latter, and thus ineligible, because they aren't played in theaters for a required timeline, and fight it even if Netflix jumps through those hoops. It's a fight between distributors, basically, and has nothing at all to do with the craft of filmmaking, nor the customer's experience.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I dont see the logic here.

If its a movie = Oscars
If its a tv-show = Emmys

Add a third option, "Both, depending on if its a fucking movie or a show", or just close the thread.

But some films are short and some tv shows are mini series.