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  1. #201
    I mean, what's the point of telling someone that they aren't conventionally attractive? To make them feel bad for their genes? To make yourself feel better? To have a laugh?

    There's something pretty about everyone. I've met people that aren't the prettiest, but they have really nice hair that just does whatever they want in any style. I've met people who just have perfect unblemished skin, which is a gene I wish I had. There are people who may not have a great jawline, but they have perfect teeth. I knew someone who didn't have a pretty face, but she had gorgeous ocean-colored eyes with huge natural eyelashes.

    There's no good reason to try to tear someone down for how they look - whether it was their choice to look that way or not. Looks are important to people, and even if they don't think they're pretty, someone else might think so. If you called anyone ugly, no matter what they or anyone else felt about them, it would just hurt their feelings. It just makes you look like an asshole for saying it at all. That's probably not how you want to be remembered.
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    I don't really see the point in telling someone that he/she is beautiful if he/she is not. The best thing would be just keep silent about the deal.

    The problem is promoting terrible lifestyles like obesity as if they were a way to be beautiful. Telling others they are beautiful is stupid the moment it becomes dangerous for their well being.

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    Everyone has a flaw that they can be called out on. But Ugliness is easy to identify. Calling someone ugly usually has no beneficial consequences, and usually has many negative consequences. Sane people act rationally, and calling people out on their ugliness is usually a no-go because of this reason. Also, calling people beautiful when they're not has a much higher chance of providing positive consequences for each individual.
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  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    Your idea that those are universal is a stumbling block.
    I will assume you don't know about it. Yes there are traits that the human specie is more attracted to. In general, almost all species are more attracted to healthy mates. Of course there are exception to all rules. People finding obese people good looking is an example of an exception.

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    Op must not get called pretty often and is bitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by lummiuster View Post
    I will assume you don't know about it. Yes there are traits that the human specie is more attracted to. In general, almost all species are more attracted to healthy mates. Of course there are exception to all rules. People finding obese people good looking is an example of an exception.
    What traits are universally attractive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why do we make them believe they are not ugly? if they are ugly... why should we not say they are ugly?
    ok, you forced my hand. You are an ugly person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why do we make them believe they are not ugly? if they are ugly... why should we not say they are ugly?
    So we don't have to feel so bad for them. It's not like anyone actually cares, they just want to feel less uncomfortable about other peoples appearance. Same thing with mental disabilities and handicaps when people say "oh they're so strong!" or "they're so intelligent" or whatever. It's just so they don't have to feel bad about the wierdos.
    And it disgusts me.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    What traits are universally attractive?
    Looking healthy is one of them.

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why do we make them believe they are not ugly? if they are ugly... why should we not say they are ugly?
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  11. #211
    As a motivational poster my university likes to post everywhere
    “It’s better to be kind then to be right”
    Personally I wouldn’t call any one ugly or beautiful to their face regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megitsune View Post
    That's kinda hard since beauty is subjective for the most part and someone you find very ugly is found very attractive by someone else. Sometimes there are people who the majority agree are attractive or unattractive but even then there will be people who think the opposite.

    Also there's these things called manners. If you are going around straight up calling people ugly to their face maybe you should learn them.
    Random: The girl that your avatar is based off of? Definitely not ugly. She's super freaking gorgeous.

  13. #213
    I dont think we should call ugly people ugly, we should just avoid saying it. Unless they are asking for our honesty. Then ya, tell em but be nice about it.

    Telling ugly people that they are beautiful is wrong too. Just leaves them thinking something like "ok I dont feel beautiful but they keep telling me I am so idk what to believe." I think ppl say it because it makes themselves feel better.

  14. #214
    Some people are ugly from the outside, but their energy and behaviour make interesting and loved.

    Some people are beautiful from the outside, but their bad behaviour eclipses the beauty of their body or their faces.


    Body beauty isn't everything, but helps a lot. People who haven't been gifted with beauty by the gene pool can compensate on other issues if they want to. Besides, people aren't also beautiful forever. People age and their beauty vanishes.


    I believe the OP should focus on the more important things in life instead of this shallow issue of exterior beauty.

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why do we make them believe they are not ugly? if they are ugly... why should we not say they are ugly?
    I can't imagine not understanding what it means for something to be subjective...

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    You don't wife a 10.
    You don't wife a 1.

    You wife a 6-7, maybe 8 (Jessica Nigri is totally wife material for me and I consider her an 8).

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why do we make them believe they are not ugly? if they are ugly... why should we not say they are ugly?
    You randomly walk up to people to tell them if they're ugly or beautiful? If someone asks if you think they're ugly or beautiful, sure, go ahead and give them the straight dope, but other than that, dunno what you would gain by being overtly blunt.

    This is from someone who prefers straight talk btw. "Does my ass look big in jeans?", "Nah, girl, your ass IS big".
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  18. #218
    As a person who is ugly (and overweight, thought been trying to work on the latter), I think it's born from a place of good intention, but winds up making things feel... worse.

    I mean, I know how I look. I obsess over my appearance and how I don't like how I look, so when people make comments of looking "handsome" or "beautiful", it feels like it's just reinforcing my own self-hating thoughts, because clearly *they're* aware of it.

    Now, that doesn't mean I'm "okay" with being called ugly, either. Truth be told, growing up my cousins constantly beat me up and made fun of me for being "the ugly one" in the family (they're all beautiful, tanned and flawless skin, versus me, I'm a pale ginger). As I said, I dwell on my appearance constantly, and it's probably the root of most of my personal problems.

    I vastly prefer being commented on choices I've made. Like, "You're dressed sharp today" or "I like your watch/shoes/whatever". I mean, I prefer compliments on how hard I work (my work-ethic is one of the few things I take some pride in), but it is what it is.

    As far as the "overweight" thing, I would say making fun of people of their weight is a pretty asshole thing to do. But, encouraging people to be healthier? For sure, that's great. For example, somebody calling me "skinny" (because I'm obviously not) feels kind of patronizing, whereas if someone asks how much weight I've lost, it feels more genuine.

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    Figured it was another moronic Natto thread.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Random: The girl that your avatar is based off of? Definitely not ugly. She's super freaking gorgeous.
    Yeah she's a cutie. It's an anime version of Natalia Poklonskaya. I like your avatar too though!

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