When does 8.2 hit? bfa has run out of content

**TheRevenantHero** · 2019-03-09, 09:01 PM

How does a troll like this get 17 pages worth of replies. HOW?!

**Fabinas** · 2019-03-09, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Nymrohd

Gotta ask the mods why a single post account is even allowed to make new threads . . .

On one side, it doesn't really matter. Getting 10 or 20 posts is pretty much easy and won't take more than 10 minutes.
On the other side, it would ruin the chances of having these "babjim" posts spamming the subforums with magic, advice for love, potions etc.

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Originally Posted by xazrael

LOL
8.1.5 has no content?
A Raid
A questline
New pets to collect
New mount to get from Brawlers
New profession stuff to do

Nope, no content at all... And yes, it is realistic to have this content last 2-3 months. If you are completing all of this within a month, you probably play the game too much.

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Well, scrap that. You seem to be more eloquent and reasonable than her.

**munkeyinorbit** · 2019-03-09, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by gushDH

That is not content. Because if it was content, then they could have infinite content, just make a set of armor, force the player to do something time consuming (and boring after having done it more than 10-15 times) and name that content. That is not content.

Originally Posted by korijenkins

That isn't new content.

Leveling through the same zones all of us have done dozens of times on a fat human is not new.
A "mini raid" is not going to occupy enough time to keep people around.
The brawler's guild getting new bosses is not enough either. I can clear the entire thing in about 2 hours, and then what? I'm supposed to continue farming it? Why? I get nothing for doing it once I'm max rank and have the mount.

Originally Posted by gushDH

Do we have to get into that? We both know what we all mean with the word content, especially when it comes to WoW. Content is something interesting to do. It is true, interesting is subjective, but there is a limit to it,too. Otherwise, they would make achievements like "level 50 characters to max level", or "walk (not run) 100000 miles in goldshire" and consider that content.

Just because you don't like the content doesn't mean there is no new content.

**Deadite** · 2019-03-09, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

How does a troll like this get 17 pages worth of replies. HOW?!

FelPlague defending every single negative thing anyone said about WoW.

**Soluna** · 2019-03-09, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Palapop

Well, my comment is about 8.1 only. And it brought us pathetic, resurrected content.

No. Icc "could have been" released on WOTLK day 1. But it actually had a story, way of progress, etc, etc, etc...

Yes. 2 bosses-raid IS content. But it's not enough of content. It's not worth months and months of grind.
Even with such small amount of content- everything else in game is B R O K E N. Gearing system, rng charade, class design, random dc's everywhere, random game crashes... It feels like it's pserver atm. And that is a fact.

You should learn how to respect someone in conversation before you let your self in one.

Well, suit yourself if you think that 8.1 and 8.1.5 are resurrected only content. I think BoD, Crucible, Xal'atath questline, naga and horde vs ally incursions, brawler's guild, azerite vendor, a new warfront, new islands and lots of new fun changes for the islands were not resurrected content. Neither are things like the new war campaign stories, the night elf extra side quest for the night warrior eyes, nor is the magni stuff or the hati questline. You can argue that most of the content outside the raids takes like 30-40 mins to complete for each of them, but so did the side content for literally every other expansion ever, other than other raids.

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Originally Posted by Gjin

Like i said before, if you read my posts here, i did stop BfA right after first raid on first week after clear, that was whole expansion right there, after that.. the "content" they added is just repeat same shit for example M+, WQ and farming raid. If you are stupid enough post ur char in forums, no1 will believe that is ur char, and if some1 like you would actually be in to top 100 guild, it just means there isnt enough players playing the game anymore. Thank you for telling us this, back in cave 2019 troll. Byeh

You know that I asked you to actually communicate in game and prove to each other that we are both in a proper guild, right? And my suggestion still stands, and we can do it privately, but I guess you are too much of a chicken, since you are an outright liar, to prove it. Also thank you for proving to me that the moment you are confronted with logic, and are asked to back up your arguments and bullshit you've been spewing left and right, you start going defensive, calling me a troll,etc. I will be waiting for you to private message me and talk ingame with me, so that we can see if you are in that 'top 500' bracket you are so proud of :S

**SirBeef** · 2019-03-10, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by blackbird1205

The price isn't high because they want to keep people from buying it, the price is so high because they know many people are still buying it nonetheless. Blizzard is a company like every other one and on the end of the day what they want is money. Why offering a service for 10 bucks when they know many people would pay 20 bucks. Look at other Mmo's with such account services and their prices and than look at wow again. It's quite more expansive for the exact same things ( server trans, appearance change etc)

No the prices were high from day one to discourage people from buying them often.

**Val the Moofia Boss** · 2019-03-10, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Biomega

I think the thread is simply incorrectly titled. It should be "BFA has run out of content I like", which is probably more about your general stance towards WoW (and potentially MMOs in general) than about BFA itself. There isn't really a paucity of content in BFA, in fact it's probably the most content we have ever had in a comparable time span during an expansion. However, it may not be the content YOU like - and that is a fair stance to occupy. However, just because you don't like something doesn't mean nothing is there. That's an important distinction, and one you should make VERY sure to get right when delivering feedback.

What WOULD be content that you like? More raids? More dungeons? What?

Correction: WoW does have a lot of "content", but it currently has very little meaningful content.

At the moment, there are:

Six zone questlines that are one and done things, and most would agree that they aren't very engaging outside of a handful of moments.

World quests. They do not immerse me in the world like the MoP reputation dailies did, as you do not interact with any characters. You just walk into an area and get a talking head telling you to kill stuff, and get a few gold at the end. You cannot farm a specific rep because emmisary caches - the primary source of exp - are choosen at random, and there are no reputation storylines to make the farm somewhat bearable. Banal, montonous, and unrewarding.

A war campaign that most would agree is built on a trashfire narrative with a handful of standout moments.

Mythic dungeons, which are exhausting as the trash are far too overtuned to serve their purpose as downtime in the player engagement cycle, creating non-stop tension from the beginning of the dungeon all of the way to the end, which isn't fun.

PvP, which was gutted of its progression cycle in Legion and hasn't been fixed. Blizzard has centered WoW's progression around climbing the ilevel ladder. The goal has been, and always will be, to increase your ilevel, with the people who put in the most time and effort getting the highest ilevel. The problem with Legion's reward structure is that it doesn't matter if you pour forty hours into rated PvP every season; you're ilevel will always be on par with the people who spent five hours on Argus and in Antorus LFRs. If you're getting combatant achievements, you've proven that you know your class and how to coordinate with a group. You should be permitted to participate in the PvE equivalent of rated PvP content, that being heroics and mythics. Unfortunately, because you're ilevel is on par with LFR and Argus questers, you'll have to pour another forty hours into raiding just to climb another ladder just to begin that content. Meanwhile, heroic raiders who have climbed their ladder and proven their ability to play their class and coordinate can jump right in to rated PvP no problem. See the double standard? Since the gutting of PvP, PvP can't entice players to spend their time playing PvP for its own intrinsic value alone when they can run mythic dungeons or raids for its intrinsic value AND the extrinsic value of gear. The rated population has since then dropped off a cliff, concentrating rated players within a handful of cliques that are openly hostile towards newcomers trying to enter the rated scene. When every LFG requires a 2.1k link to get into, but you can't earn a 2.1k achievement without getting in a winning group in the first place, you have a catch-22 scenario where no newcomers can get into rated, resulting in a scene that is bleeding itself dry.

Raiding, which suffers from the same foundational problems as always, exacerbated by titanforging...

Compare that WoW to FFXIV, where there is an overwhelming plethora of content to run. Unlike BFA, reputations actually have a storyline you look forward to progressing in (like MoP's reputations but without the daily gating). Unlike BFA, dungeons are actually fun to run, and you aren't limited to running the same ten linear dungeons over and over again for two years, as you can run every single dungeon released in the game for meaningful and relevant rewards (and you don't have to wait for a week-long timewalking event every month either!). Unlike BFA, PvP has a progression system that entices players to play it to purchase transmogs and the power upgrades they need. Unlike BFA, the main questline is actually engaging and you can tell that the writers didn't drop out of their Writing 101 course (Blizzard excels at pitching great premises or creating interesting lore, but they are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to actually telling a story you care about).

Blizzard likes to boast about having the most amount of "content" added over the years compared to any other MMO, but only a fraction of it is meaningful to the playerbase at any time. You don't see many 120 characters running around Outland, do you? If they want to make WoW fun again, they need to make all of their content relevant again. Change LFD so that players can land in any dungeon they've leveled up enough to be eligible for across all of the patches. Add a daily cache of current raid quality gear rewarded to players who complete a timewalking raid (pulled from all patches) that rotates on a daily basis (with each boss eligible to drop upgrades to the gear you have available), incentivizing players to actually experience content they might not have otherwise walked through except maybe a couple times for a transmog, and actually experience it's mechanics and work as a team, learning the fights and being challenged rather than just one shotting the boss. Give each faction its own indepth questline developing the people and culture of that faction. Borrow a page from GW2 and remake the World Quest system into a zone-wide Meta event system ala GW2 season 2 maps and onward, where people go out into the world and play events just for the zone wide meta, with everyone in the zone working together to accomplish a common goal (rather than everyone just dropping in for two minutes to get their loot and hearth back to town). These are but a few suggestions that - if implemented - would bring me back.

Oh, did I mention that they should make their stories engaging again, like they were in MoP?

**Rogalicus** · 2019-03-10, 06:47 AM