V8.1.5 lore/gameplay

[FuxieDK]

I didn't have the time to play until last night after the patch, so please forgive me...

I was surprised that the game forced me to help Blaine betray Sylvanas, by delivering Derek, before he was full "prepared"..

Why did we have an option to be loyal to/betray Sylvanas in v8.1, but in v8.1.5 we were forced to betray her?

And what was Nathanos's part in it? The quest makes you tell Nathaos "I need to go to Tiragarden Sounds to assist Baine", so there is not even an attempt to be secret about the betrayal..

[Nathasil]

I didn't have the time to play until last night after the patch, so please forgive me...

I was surprised that the game forced me to help Blaine betray Sylvanas, by delivering Derek, before he was full "prepared"..

Why did we have an option to be loyal to/betray Sylvanas in v8.1, but in v8.1.5 we were forced to betray her?

And what was Nathanos's part in it? The quest makes you tell Nathaos "I need to go to Tiragarden Sounds to assist Baine", so there is not even an attempt to be secret about the betrayal..

There are choices, they just depend on what you chose last time. What you just said does not make sense because it's not secretive is BECAUSE you are playing the Sylvanas-Lackey option. You are reporting to her and Nathanos about what you are doing. It does not change anything in the quests.

If you had chosen to side with Saurfang in 8.1 there would not have been any options for you and your task would have been more secretive.

Edit:
This wowhead article is a pretty good summary: https://www.wowhead.com/news=290665/...rde-leader-rea

[FuxieDK]

Edit:
This wowhead article is a pretty good summary: https://www.wowhead.com/news=290665/...rde-leader-rea

Odd.. None of this happened:

After returning to Nathanos in Dazar'alor, he ensures the information is sent to Sylvanas, and sends us to our next mission: SI:7 activity has been detected in Stormsong Valley, so we're sent there in Securing Warfang Hold. Arriving there, the leader of the settlement, Boss Mida, mentions that Nathanos is correct, but don't tell him about the situation or he will get all smug about it. You then help control the Alliance spies by slaying them in Spy Games and destroying their listening devices in Communication Breakdown.

I was never sent to Stormsong Valley..
I did, however, get a 12 or 24 hour mission.. Maybe that needs to be completed before I get sent to Stormsong Valley??

[FuxieDK]

I don't know if it matters but I choose to not help Saurfang. Now, when Baine addressed me, I went to Nathanos on my own volition to rat him out and he told me to proceed with his task.

What is totally off is that Sylvannas killed Zeeling, an undead and spared Baine. All thou, Baine did approach on his own to tell it was his idea while Zeeling was mute.

#NoGarrosh2.0

As a good Horde loyalist, I supported Sylvanas in v8.1 and I reported Baine to Nathanon yesterday.

But Part 2 didn't happen..
Must be that mission, which I have completed on my phone, but not logged into the game yet.

[FuxieDK]

Yes, it's after that mission from the table.

Splendid..
The wowhead guide just didn't mention it..