It time we call the Alt-Right what it is...A violent extremist movement

[Kumorii]

Okay I'll listen to their concern then tell them their a bad person and their point of view is wrong. Because hate and violence against other people is not a valid viewpoint.

And blaming others for all of your issues is also not a valid viewpoint.

What are you on about? I'm not talking about blame. I'm talking about understanding someone's actions and why they act like they do. That way we can try and prevent it. I guess that holds no value to you, it does to me however.

[Tico]

Extremist right wing is always trying to get new covers to disguise themselves. But This cover always falls.

[Misuteri]

So is the purpose of this thread to label anyone not on board with the socialist/communist watermelon green movement and completely in agreement with multiculturalism and diversity an enemy of the people?

[Knolan]

Oh ya, the guy who believes in race science and "white genocide" is totally not a Nazi.



They know Sargon and co are Nazis. They lie because they agree with them.

[Kumorii]

Lmao. You mean I should listen to idiots who can't even get facts right? Like some sweden democrats here complaining immigrants get money from the state?

You should listen to what they are concerned about, yeah. I do not mean you should believe what they say when they are factually wrong. Understanding their view and why they have said view is the first step to counter it.

Since you brought up SD it's pretty much a case that proves what I'm talking about. The rest of parties were mostly just saying you are wrong and people who thought immigration was handled poorly got labeled racists. What happened? People started to vote for SD since it was the only party that actually took immigration seriously even if lot of their points are false.

Parties and societies neglect and childish behaviour of sticking fingers in their ear and saying "lalalalalala" about the topic is what gained SD voters.

If people instead have met the considerations and concerns seriously they would never have become the third biggest(if not now 2nd) party.

This is also what the political analysts said after they became so big. Everyone ignored the topic while they focused on it.

[Jyggalag]

Theres no "painting" needed. The shooter is your run of the mill conservative; using your run of the mill conservative rhetoric and a heavy penchant towards conspiracy theories.

Clearly not, or shootings would be "run of the mill".

[beanman12345]

So is the purpose of this thread to label anyone not on board with the socialist/communist watermelon green movement and completely in agreement with multiculturalism and diversity an enemy of the people?

No... just the alt right...

[Ivanstone]

Black males were in the highest position of power in America for eight years, if they did not improve it is their fault.

See how retarded that phrase was? Good, hope you understand why your thinking does not follow.

One black person was President. The vast majority of politicians were White Males who used their power to block the President's power. Wealth controlled by White Males also used their power to block the President's power.

Furthermore I didn't say it who specifically was at fault. Most white men with shitty lives because of rich white men.

[buddhapunch09]

LOL this post has officially defeated this thread!!!

[Hilhen7]

What are you on about? I'm not talking about blame. I'm talking about understanding someone's actions and why they act like they do. That way we can try and prevent it. I guess that holds no value to you, it does to me however.

We already understand why the alt right does what they do.

Hate, fear, bigotry, and the need to blame others. It's really not all that complicated...

[Machismo]

No, neither are all alt righters, but both have extremists on their side tought.



Just wondering, why do you think that Sargon is not just an English liberal?
I have followed his channel for many years now and I have never seen he doing anything that points otherwise. Sure, he can be an asshole sometimes, but that does not remove him from being an english liberal.

Yes, we should condemn things like Sharia Law, ethno-nationalism, and white nationalism.

[blehmeh]

"My threads bring all the NPCs to the yard."

Antifa is classified as being domestic terrorists, but clearly its the "alt-right" that are the big meanies.

Notice too how almost ANYTHING that doesn't fall 100% in line with antifa based thinking is immediately labeled "alt-right" as a way to dehumanize and discredit. I'm centrist and hear all the time how I'm "alt-right", because I fact checked what CNN was blatantly lying about.

I can't wait for this bullshit narrative to finally die, because it holds NO WEIGHT with proper context. Leave your bubbles, you've all been deceived by the MSM.

[Kumorii]

We already understand why the alt right does what they do.

Hate, bigotry, and the need to blame others.

You're right to have that view. Being that simple about the topic just means it will continue however. It's more nuanced and complexed situation that drives people to extreme violence. You do you however and I won't gain much from a further discussion with you.

Have a good evening.

[JohnBrown1917]

"My threads bring all the NPCs to the yard."

Antifa is classified as being domestic terrorists, but clearly its the "alt-right" that are the big meanies.

Notice too how almost ANYTHING that doesn't fall 100% in line with antifa based thinking is immediately labeled "alt-right" as a way to dehumanize and discredit. I'm centrist and hear all the time how I'm "alt-right", because I fact checked what CNN was blatantly lying about.

I can't wait for this bullshit narrative to finally die, because it holds NO WEIGHT with proper context. Leave your bubbles, you've all been deceived by the MSM.

The US, where anti-fascist actions are terrorism.

lol

[Darkeon]

Alt-Right people are extremists.

The problem rises from wrongly labelling as such people you see as political opponents in some sort of moral superiority rush.

[druenos]

Theres no "painting" needed. The shooter is your run of the mill conservative; using your run of the mill conservative rhetoric and a heavy penchant towards conspiracy theories.

Is there any proof oh this? I would say the shooter is a terrorist scumbag either way. Why do you say run of the mill conservative rhetoric, are you trying to paint all conservatives as potential terrorists? Run of the mill conservatism by definition can't be rhetoric. Alt right is conservative rhetoric. Typical of the far left to label everybody right of center rhetoric. I am left of center but I don't label every conservative alt right. The vast majority of conservatives are not alt right.

[Animalhouse]

Here is where you go wrong, none of those people are alt right.

Alt right is a right wing white supremacist movement, which the vast majority of people opposes and it is tiny. Progressives decided to turn it into its boogeyman and place everybody they don't like in it (just like what you are doing). This made the term lose its meaning (main reason why the media is now using right wing populist or right wing extremist instead).

So, yes, alt right is retarded and evil, but so are you for trying to dishonestly drag your opponents into it.

^^^This right here^^^

Well said!

[Hilhen7]

You're right to have that view. Being that simple about the topic just means it will continue however. It's more nuanced and complexed situation that drives people to extreme violence. You do you however and I won't gain much from a further discussion with you.

Have a good evening.

Hatred and racism has existed for thousands of years, they are not new ideals and has constantly resulted in violence. People that continue to hold these things in their heart are simply bad people.

We can stop / punish the individuals committing the violence but stopping it from continuing is a much harder task.

That's fine, we agree to disagree.

[Kumorii]

Refugee intake was poorly executed. Immigration? No.
We have requirements we have to meet to even immigrate to sweden. Regulations surrounding immigration have always been working well.

The problem with those who "had a problem with it" is that they thought immigrants and refugees are the same thing. I've seriously had people asking why I came to sweden despite passing other safe countries. Wtf? I'm not a refugee. I came here because my mother brought me with her after marrying a swedish man.

Yeah, even if you are right about the differences that doesn't change the fact how it was handled by the parties, media and society. As I said, even analysts said what I said. My point is that ignoring concerns because you don't agree or think they are stupid won't make them go away. It will just make it grow in an echo chamber which can have grave concequences.

As per my example.

[Knolan]

You must be an American then, the US doesn't define what words mean.

The US Democrats are part of the international liberal organization which is right wing in nature except it's not conservative.

That the lack of any left in the US has cause you to consider liberals as left wing is just a mistake that seems to have stuck.

Yes classic liberal is more about the individual (liberalism light) but it's still progressive as opposed to conservative.

I am not American, I am a Brazilian who lives in Europe.

At this point I really, really wish there was a better definition for words like liberal, progressive and conservative.

One black person was President. The vast majority of politicians were White Males who used their power to block the President's power. Wealth controlled by White Males also used their power to block the President's power.

Furthermore I didn't say it who specifically was at fault. Most white men with shitty lives because of rich white men.

What I meant is that people don't organize, nor are benefited directly for being black or white.
A rich black guy has a much, much easier life than a poor white guy living in a trailer park.
For a lower class white guy, having a lot of white rich guys on power has no impact on him and thinking it does is mainly why you see them complaining.

Yes, we should condemn things like Sharia Law, ethno-nationalism, and white nationalism.

On that we agree.