Joker [with Joaquin Phoenix]

[Razzako]

I for one wanted them to take the animated Joker origin path, the one where he fell into some tank of some sort of red chemical liquid. Not the one depicted in the trailer where he went crazy cause people treated him badly but oh well, I'm sure Joaquin Phoenix will kill the acting.

[apples]

Just watch the show Gotham for a backstory of Joker. This movie was not necessary and no one asked for it.

so what... stories are very rarely asked for and are never necessary

[RobertoCarlos]

I for one wanted them to take the animated Joker origin path, the one where he fell into some tank of some sort of red chemical liquid. Not the one depicted in the trailer where he went crazy cause people treated him badly but oh well, I'm sure Joaquin Phoenix will kill the acting.

Leto already took a dive into a vat of chemicals and it was awful.

Ill take guy getting sick of the world and turning insane over that thanks.

[Highelf]

so what... stories are very rarely asked for and are never necessary

...so...you agree. Cool!

[Cosmic Janitor]

Leto already took a dive into a vat of chemicals and it was awful.

Ill take guy getting sick of the world and turning insane over that thanks.

Implying that his origin story was the issue with Leto's Joker ... lol.

I think I know why I personally have a bad vibe about the film. It seems like an interesting character drama, but not a Joker movie. From the way the trailer makes it look the movie could literally be called "The Sad Clown" and feature non of the batman universe stuff and would probably still evoke the same feelings in me. We will see if that is how it turns out, but that is certainly the impression I've got off the trailer.

[RobertoCarlos]

Implying that his origin story was the issue with Leto's Joker ... lol.

I think I know why I personally have a bad vibe about the film. It seems like an interesting character drama, but not a Joker movie. From the way the trailer makes it look the movie could literally be called "The Sad Clown" and feature non of the batman universe stuff and would probably still evoke the same feelings in me. We will see if that is how it turns out, but that is certainly the impression I've got off the trailer.

Your "vibe" is that this film is not your standard 200-300million dollar film to make superhero film, its very much more a "indie" film in the superhero genre.

I mean instead of complaining about it, could look at the positives in that the superhero genre isnt gonna die out anytime soon with these kind of out there films in the same month end game is coming out which will break records. Its nice theres still room for the smaller stuff among the 1 billion dollar earning films

[Razzako]

Leto already took a dive into a vat of chemicals and it was awful.

Ill take guy getting sick of the world and turning insane over that thanks.

Thing is, that's not all there is to it - and I wasn't talking about Leto's Joker which I'm not a fan of. The one I'm referring is what happened allegedly by the Joker in the movies, it's implied that he may have been lying and there's some other stuff around that. In the animated movie it was really, really well executed. Check it out to see what I mean even more so if you like DC and Batman, disregard Leto's Joker though.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Just watch the show Gotham for a backstory of Joker. This movie was not necessary and no one asked for it.

Joker has a ton of backstories, most, if not all of them are lies. That's the fun part of the Joker.

Also this film takes place in a totally different continuity, and is set when Thomas Wayne is alive.

[DemoBytom]

Joker has a ton of backstories, most, if not all of them are lies. That's the fun part of the Joker.

Aren't there like, canonically, 3 Jokers now, simultanously?
After Batman become god and learned the truth about him?

I kinda lost track WTF was going on in that storyline...

[Ihavewaffles]

Anyone else feel like this was as script for like a "Falling Down" type movie that they turned into "The Joker". Digging the look and feel, more excited than I figured I would be.

Felt more like Penguin from TV show Gotham to me



Penguin, same actor, should have his own movie! There's a huge amount of creative freedom with DC films now, like TV shows have.

Sad that it took suicide squad, justice league, ben assfleck etc. to allow this freedom

[Thelxi]

Looks very good.

[Beerbill Society]

I loved this trailer, I just can't stop watching it. His performance is amazing, looking forward to see the whole deal.

[Beazy]

Could you possibly be more obnoxious? Holy fuck.

Elba doesnt know shit about comics. He types a comic book heroes name into Tumblr and finds some way to be outraged about them.

Like the time he accused Netflix of being racist and "white washing" for hiring a white guy to play Danny Rand, the immortal iron fist. LoL. /facepalm

[Kreo]

Wow, this trailer is great, did not expect serious take on a cartoon villain. Maybe they will go back to the Batman Begins and The Dark Knight roots, where they tried to put comic characters into real world where they act according to real world rules (more or less ofc), without CGI generic baddies. Really hope they will follow that road.

[RobertoCarlos]

Thing is, that's not all there is to it - and I wasn't talking about Leto's Joker which I'm not a fan of. The one I'm referring is what happened allegedly by the Joker in the movies, it's implied that he may have been lying and there's some other stuff around that. In the animated movie it was really, really well executed. Check it out to see what I mean even more so if you like DC and Batman, disregard Leto's Joker though.

I'm a huge batman fan i've pretty much seen it all.

I was never a fan of the joker's origin story being the guy that wore a red mask and tripped and fell running from batman.

I kinda liked Heaths ambiguous background. I dont think we really need to explain where joker came from personally.

[Shadowferal]

Just watch the show Gotham for a backstory of Joker. This movie was not necessary and no one asked for it.

Cameron Monaghan's Joker has been the best since Ledger's role. Had the production put Monaghan in the role here I'd feel more positive about this movie.

[Razzako]

I'm a huge batman fan i've pretty much seen it all.

I was never a fan of the joker's origin story being the guy that wore a red mask and tripped and fell running from batman.

I kinda liked Heaths ambiguous background. I dont think we really need to explain where joker came from personally.

Oh gotcha, I love Batman too so that's always nice to hear. Personally what I liked the most about the animated story is the fact that they implied he might be lying because of the inconsistencies during the film, which were intentional. I also loved the way they did it with Heath's Joker, that's easily my favorite Joker. And if there's anyone who can match that one I'm sure it's Phoenix, at least in terms of acting.

[Orange Joe]

And yet his experiences in life helped shape him into that psychopath, and considering this movie looks like an origin story...

I'm not saying The Joker is morally grey once he's acting as The Joker, I'm saying that the movie may portray him as a tragic character-turned-villain (at least that's sort of how it looks to me), and I don't think there's anything inherently wrong or offensive about that.

Tragic villain origin story =/= tragic hero becoming villain

[Babadoo]

Cameron Monaghan's Joker has been the best since Ledger's role. Had the production put Monaghan in the role here I'd feel more positive about this movie.

You kidding that overacted, tryhard, B-class cringe fest joker. Hell no. Seriously this kid is less cringe than that Gotham Joker.

[Razzako]

What if this is framed as him talking to police and there’s inconsistencies?

Do you mean in Phoenix's Joker? That would be cool.