Chicago reports 24 shootings and five murders in one weekend

[Saucexorzski]

I think it would be more sensical to look at both problems and try and deal with both.

Too bad only one matters.

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There is a romantic view of gangs in some cultures.

A lot of it is about respect. Young people see the respect that gang members get and they want some of that.

Id say the gang is to inner city folk as the confed flag is to rural folks. Its about image.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Too bad only one matters.

Odd some one should Proabbly tell that to the people trying to deal with each problem as they apperntly didn’t get the memo.

[Saucexorzski]

Odd some one should Proabbly tell that to the people trying to deal with each problem as they apperntly didn’t get the memo.

Ahh the attitude of its already being taken care off. Of course it is, nothing to look at or see here, move along...move along.

[breadisfunny]

gangs need to be executed.

[Nellise]

The drug wars/gang wars in Chicago are due to heroin and conflicts between Hispanic gangs (I mean foreign nationals with local membership as well.) and black gangs.

74% of the murder victims this year in Chicago have been black. The Hispanic population is now bigger in Chicago than the black population (30% to 29%), so unless Hispanic gang members are simply much better shots, what I said isn't wrong.

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It was about 9 years ago ( 2010 ). And as noted, the death rate from firearms there have been on a decline recently. The law Chicago had which was ruled unconstitutional was the one against registration of handguns. People committing crimes in the city with handguns are by far, not using handguns legally in the city. Chicago has no open carry or conceal carry without a license of firearms.

There were actually a couple of laws struck down. I was thinking of this one, which I think was the last case, when I said 5 years: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...106-story.html

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Exactly, this is such a minor and unimportant problem, lets focus on white ISIS!

We can do more than two things at once...

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Too bad only one matters.

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Id say the gang is to inner city folk as the confed flag is to rural folks. Its about image.

They both matter there are protest every day in Chicago. Just because you live in a victim culture bubble doesn't mean thing don't happen outside of it.

[Draco-Onis]

I mean I hate to defend Zenkai on literally anything because this is obviously bait, but per capita crime rates probably don't really matter much to someone living in Chicago watching this shit happen.

Would you rather live in a city with 100 people where 50 of them will die or a city of 10,000 people where 100 of them will die?

[dunhildas]

Those two children would have been killed if the murderer was throwing knives into the crowd as well I'm sure, no reason to restrain access on the most effective personal tool for murder in existence.

BUT, MURDER IS ILLEGAL! WHY IS THERE STILL MURDERERS?! IT DEFILES ALL LOGIC!


Them Firearms were Illegally obtained, even if the city had no legal owned firearms, Illegally owned ones wouldn't magically stop existing.

[Draco-Onis]

BUT, MURDER IS ILLEGAL! WHY IS THERE STILL MURDERERS?! IT DEFILES ALL LOGIC!


Them Firearms were Illegally obtained, even if the city had no legal owned firearms, Illegally owned ones wouldn't magically stop existing.

There's no ban of legal guns in Chicago.....

[GutsAP]

How about all the geniuses on the left and right try to figure out some solutions to all the socioeconomic issues that drive people towards a criminal life instead of arguing over petty bs?

[Themius]

indianapolis had 6 gun deaths over the weekend.

i've said it before, once you step into the east side of indy you better have a reason. it's a warzone.

chicago is obviously no different.

Considering that Chicago is like 4x bigger, why aren't there more threads on Indianapolis?

[Martymark]

you just feel like shitting on Chicago for one bad weekend?

"Most places 24 shootings and 5 murders would be a tragedy. But in Chicago, it's Tuesday."

[MrKnowItAll]

Yeah yeah its the same old...these black lives lost here don't really matter to Black Lives Matter-movement for example. Only the ones where whites kill blacks.

[Themius]

I mean I hate to defend Zenkai on literally anything because this is obviously bait, but per capita crime rates probably don't really matter much to someone living in Chicago watching this shit happen.

per capita should matter to people living there as it literally is the chance of you being a victim.

For instance the poster who said there were 6 murders in Indianapolis, that is much more worry when you consider the city is a quarter the size of Chicago making your chances of having been a victim that weekend much higher than in Chicago.

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Every illegal gun was legal at some point.

I imagine these become illegal after your friendly neighbourhood straw purchaser illegally distributed his legally obtained firearms. Thanks Gary, Indiana!

Guns flow into Chicago because it borders states with very lax gun control.

I don't know why people don't get this and use chicago as a shining example of how gun control doesn't work. It is a shining example that unless you have UNIVERSAL gun control that it is hard to control.

For instance, New York has tough laws, but PA doesn't... and PA is what... an hour or so away?

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"Most places 24 shootings and 5 murders would be a tragedy. But in Chicago, it's Tuesday."

Indianapolis apparently had 6 over the same period, and they're a city that is 1/4 the size... more murders than Chicago AND ONLY A QUARTER OF THE SIZE seems there should be a thread on that?

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Yeah yeah its the same old...these black lives lost here don't really matter to Black Lives Matter-movement for example. Only the ones where whites kill blacks.

So you mean blm and other groups don't protest this?

Literally multiple times a year, across the country and in Chicago especially there are rallies.

They typically don't make the news, but rallies against this violence happens extremely often just because you don't see them on the news doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You could always just google to see if such rallies happen instead of opting to just not look anything up and be ignorant of the facts.

[XDurionX]

Owning a gun makes you immune to bullets, i was told.

[Reachie]

Yeah but when the number is high to begin with and it drops a small %, I wouldn't call that successful. That's like a family with kids losing 2 one year and only 1 the next year saying "well at least are kid death rate went down 50%"

Yeah. Because murder rates of a large city is definitely comparable to a family losing kids.

The fact that you made that statement, just goes to show me you are a complete moron.

[derpkitteh]

we need a forced cultural change in these areas.

send in the military and execute every single gang member. outlaw hiphop and rap, give incentives to either not have children, or to keep two partners together to raise the child.

[Saucexorzski]

Economic stimulus, decriminalization of drugs, more robust adult education, and jobs training?

The Bolded is the only effect measure listed. everything else can already be done by anyone with the drive and willpower to overcome adversity. You give them the other things and they end up like a poor version of a trust fund babies, no respect for what's been giving to them.

[Seranthor]

we need a forced cultural change in these areas.

send in the military and execute every single gang member. outlaw hiphop and rap, give incentives to either not have children, or to keep two partners together to raise the child.

Wait, you mean you want to end the cycle of generational poverty and dependence on the government? and thereby removing the motivation for politicians to use these folks as political chattel in their quest for power? Now you know we cant allow that. Not to mention, of course, your idea would be frowned upon in our society.

[Bryntrollian]

Yes, the drug war rages on in Chicago. More news at 11PM.