If a package arrives at your house by mistake, you can keep it.. OR NOT.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Man arrested for keeping an 86-inch flat-screen TV that was mailed to his home by mistake

A man from Freetown, Mass., was arrested on Monday night for keeping an 86-inch flat-screen TV that was mailed to his home by mistake, according to Boston 25 News.

Nick Memmo, 35, told the outlet what occurred at his home the night of his arrest. “They surrounded the house and knocked on the door with flashlights coming through all the windows. They told me to come outside then handcuffed me,” he said.

Memmo said that he originally bought and paid for a 74-inch flat-screen TV on Amazon, but when the 86-inch arrived, delivered by a third-party shipping company, he chose not to return the larger model. The police found it mounted on to his wall.

“I looked into all the laws and said, ‘You know, it’s a scratch ticket. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose,'” he said. He added, “Amazon said I had nothing to worry about. I made no wrong decisions at that point.”

The shipping company, however, disagrees. They allegedly made numerous calls to Memmo before they finally went to police.

Several days before his arrest, police attempted to question Memmo. “I answered what questions I could without putting myself in jeopardy,” he said. “I said, ‘Do I need to hire an attorney?’ and they said I wasn’t under investigation at that point. They were just asking questions. I answered a lot of questions with ‘I don’t know’ just so I didn’t jeopardize myself.”

The shipping company claims that Memmo signed for the incorrect delivery, which Memmo disputes. He also says that he never informed them he was someone he is not.

Memmo is now facing jail time. He says if he knew he would be arrested, he would have paid for the larger TV or returned it.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/man-...230124458.html

Yeah personally I have listened to people make arguments on both sides of the issue of whether or not if an item gets delivered to the wrong address if you are allowed to keep it.

However in my opinion this falls under the don't shit where you eat kind of deals. Most of my neighbors if they aren't home, I know them all well enough that I am ok with them having an item delivered to my home, because, 1 I have a fenced in yard, and 2 because I have top of the line security cameras monitoring my front door.

And unfortunately in this day an age where people not only do this you have individuals that specifically patrol neighborhoods in order to steal packages off peoples property.

But anyways, what is your take on this issue, is it finders keepers, or if it is or isn't where you live, where do you stand morally on this issue or anywhere else?

[Ophenia]

I'd probably keep it, but I wouldn't negotiate anything if someone contacted me. Not playing with the devil here.

[j0hncramer]

according to a very reputable source, Married With Children, you can keep that shit. However, if its a credit card in your dog's name, you better not use it.

[callipygoustp]

I have, on two different occasions, hand delivered it myself. Granted, in neither case was the item nearly as large as a TV.

[Kumorii]

Mistakes happens, doesn't mean you get to steal someone else's delivery which is what it basically is. Same as if someone accidentally sends money to the wrong account you don't get to spend it. They can do a drawback and I imagine if you've already spent it and they can't receive the money you will have to pay them back. At least that's how it is here... I think.

[Rustedsaint]

I wouldn’t keep it, if there was a mistake in something I ordered I would let the company know and go from there.

[Weeps]

Honestly, wherever the mistake was made... that's who needs to eat the bullet.

If a package with MY NAME on the box had a bigger TV, I'd feel surprised and end up keeping it. But there's a caveat.

I have a delicate conscience, it wouldn't sit well with me at night.

So I'd probably just call up the company, "Yo I ordered a 74, not a 87?"

Ask for the rep's name and id number for reference. Write it down.

See what happens from that point on.

If it was someone else's name, I'd immediately call the company it came from. I've had it happen before. I got a pair of ladies sneakers in the mail and I was like, "Wtf? Did you order sneakers online?" I was surprised because my wife never does that, she likes buying in person. She said, "Hell no, you know I don't."

The company overnighted a new mailing address sheet (prepaid) and asked me to drop it off at a local FedEx. I did that.

There are still good people out there!

[downnola]

If I had a package shipped to someone else's home, I'd want them to return it to me. So, I make sure to go out of my way to return what isn't mine in those situations for that reason. I always turn in lost items when I find them.

[Kyphael]

I wouldn't keep it because it can be traced to me, like it did here. Don't risk your freedom for something as meaningless as a TV or anything, really. Finding money in the street and not turning it into the police, sure, you can get away with it, there's no way to track it back. But the moment you sign for something, and it has someone else's name on it, or whatever, and it can be traced back in any way, not worth the risk.

I'm surprised the police got involved though, geez. You'd think they would just send it to collection or something. People declare bankruptcy and don't go to jail. A buy keeps a TV delivered by mistake to him, which means was somebody's fuck up (and that person should be fired), and he faces jail time? Seems a bit extreme.

[Kumorii]

Mistakes happens, doesn't mean you get to steal someone else's delivery which is what it basically is. Same as if someone accidentally sends money to the wrong account you don't get to spend it. They can do a drawback and I imagine if you've already spent it and they can't receive the money you will have to pay them back. At least that's how it is here... I think.

EDIT: Christ, after thoroughly reading the article the thread to title is kinda missleading.

I would personally call them myself and ask what's up about the delivery since I got the wrong thing. I wouldn't just assume I get to keep it. Although I have gotten favorable services through companies mistake, in this case I think the price difference would be too big.

I guess he could just feign ignorance and say he didn't realise it was the wrong one and just return it without any hassle. But dunno.

He should not receive jail time for this imo.

[Independent voter]

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86 inch?!

Damn! That's like a whole wall.

Probably a felony level amount of money involved.

[faithbane]

Yeah personally I have listened to people make arguments on both sides of the issue of whether or not if an item gets delivered to the wrong address if you are allowed to keep it.

However in my opinion this falls under the don't shit where you eat kind of deals. Most of my neighbors if they aren't home, I know them all well enough that I am ok with them having an item delivered to my home, because, 1 I have a fenced in yard, and 2 because I have top of the line security cameras monitoring my front door.

And unfortunately in this day an age where people not only do this you have individuals that specifically patrol neighborhoods in order to steal packages off peoples property.

But anyways, what is your take on this issue, is it finders keepers, or if it is or isn't where you live, where do you stand morally on this issue or anywhere else?

What the cops did is a major dick move but there are many unknowns in this case and the story is different based on who you ask. First of all, when the police "Questions" you and you comply voluntarily and you say you don't know, you are not under jeopardy especially if they confirmed that you were not under investigation so you are not misleading or impeding anything. Keep in mind that this is not a case of a mail addressed to someone else coming to you and you opening it, it is just mismatched orders.. It is not your responsibility to know if your order is not accurate. If you found a box at your door with someone else's name and number on it, that would a different case and actually a serious mail fraud case if you opened it knowingly.

HOWEVER, the other side claims that they tried to contact the guy and resolve the issue but he left them at "SeeN" pretty much.. The guy didn't get lucky, he tried to get away with it even after the mistake was known so the shipping company's case has merit here.

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86 inch?!

Damn! That's like a whole wall.

Probably a felony level amount of money involved.

Yea sadly he could be charged with "Stealing" and based on the worth of the TV it could be grand larceny.. which is a hilarious sitcom plot line for something that appeared at your door

[Hilhen7]

I would charge the shipping company a fee for wasting my time...

[horbindr]

if it was addressed to my address i would keep it.

where i live it would be strange if the sender said you had nothing to worry about and you still got hassled, since they would be the ones who would have to complain with the carrier to get them to investigate.

[Doctor Amadeus]

What the cops did is a major dick move but there are many unknowns in this case and the story is different based on who you ask. First of all, when the police "Questions" you and you comply voluntarily and you say you don't know, you are not under jeopardy especially if they confirmed that you were not under investigation so you are not misleading or impeding anything. Keep in mind that this is not a case of a mail addressed to someone else coming to you and you opening it, it is just mismatched orders.. It is not your responsibility to know if your order is not accurate. If you found a box at your door with someone else's name and number on it, that would a different case and actually a serious mail fraud case if you opened it knowingly.

HOWEVER, the other side claims that they tried to contact the guy and resolve the issue but he left them at "SeeN" pretty much.. The guy didn't get lucky, he tried to get away with it even after the mistake was known so the shipping company's case has merit here.

Honestly excellent break down. Yep wasn’t completely sure at first but your argument is pretty concise both in reasoning and logic as it relates to the law.

Specifically mentioning once there is a record or omission of his guilt.

[Boricha]

My town had a snowstorm early last year that messed up our mail system. For a few months people were getting loads of others' mail, and some got no mail at all. There were no repercussions as far as I'm aware. I don't think I'd want an 86 inch TV lol. I don't know where I'd even put it, so I'd probably have tried to contact Amazon about it.

[sosleapy]

What I have found with mis sized stuff is if you call them back they will just let you keep it especially if the package had your name on it. Usually cheaper to let you keep it the go thru the shipping process 2 more times.

[Doctor Amadeus]

What I have found with mis sized stuff is if you call them back they will just let you keep it especially if the package had your name on it. Usually cheaper to let you keep it the go thru the shipping process 2 more times.

That’s probably true in a lot of cases but my guess is a 87 inch tv is something they are going to want to come back and pick up.

[natpick]

i recieved a huge box of dozens of two way radios,expensive ones,arranged to have them picked up,never even recieved a thank you.

[horbindr]

Mistakes happens, doesn't mean you get to steal someone else's delivery which is what it basically is.

it's not theft. the sender is responsible for the delivery until it reaches the client, which it never did. basically from the clients perspective the store/sender is in breach of contract. the sender either has to suck it up if they made a mistake, or get the damages from the carrier if they made a mistake.

would be very lucrative if you could go after people for "mistakenly" sending them stuff.