Mount equipment argument

[Hobbidaggy]

I’m very confused about the argument of the mount equipment. Everybody uses the water strider as it is the easiest to travel with the water walking. Blizzard has seen this and decided to add a feature to allow people to use their other mounts and also have water walking. They have removed water walking from the strider...but with the shoes you have it back.

How is this a bad thing? You also get the option to have other items equiped instead if you don’t want the water walking. They have literally removed nothing (except the baked in water walking on the strider) and opened up the ability to all mounts. Is anybody able to realistically explain the reason people are upset?

[tripleh]

Why remove it in the first place? The one from garrison could have taken a bit to earn. Meaning all the hard work for it was for nothing. Not to mention if you bought the one from Karasang wilds for 5k gold. Means you just wasted 5k gold on a useless mount. It started with the devs changing portals, now there changing mounts. Ask yourself what else are they gonna screw up? They could have just left the waterstrider alone and let it keep the ability. Alot of the equipment for mounts can already be found in game. Barding from leatherworkers and items from other professions. Seems like the devs are wasting time on reinventing the wheel again. When they could focus on fixing classes and rng.

[Sharby]

Well the biggest and most glaring issue is that as I recall the mount equip is destroyed if you swap it for another similar to artifact relics which is a huge red flag to me because we also know that mount equipment is shared across all mounts.

Making it inconvenient/clunky to constantly swap equip to suit environment is very annoying and still ends up with the issue of boxing you into using only one item, of course this is dependent on how scarce mount equipment is.

If they made mount equipment heirlooms and put them into the heirloom tab (allowing you to create as many as you want) and/or removed the shared slot I think there would be no issues.

[seleri]

People like to be outraged over things, doesn't matter if it makes sense.

The reward from Anglers and/or Nat Pagle rep grinding is the mount, which they aren't taking away.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Honestly, it seemed like a lazy system and encourage using only 1 mount.

If they had a system where families of mounts have different abilities, it would have been a lot better.

Example: Tigers jump high, horses prevent daze, striders and crocs allow water walking, etc....

How is using mounts you don’t like for buffs a better system? If you want to swhich mounts just swhich mounts.

[Sevarin]

Honestly, it seemed like a lazy system and encourage using only 1 mount.

If they had a system where families of mounts have different abilities, it would have been a lot better.

Example: Tigers jump high, horses prevent daze, striders and crocs allow water walking, etc....

that... sounds kind of horrible. i dont want 20 different mounts on my bars. i have summon random favorite mount.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Why remove it in the first place? The one from garrison could have taken a bit to earn. Meaning all the hard work for it was for nothing. Not to mention if you bought the one from Karasang wilds for 5k gold. Means you just wasted 5k gold on a useless mount. It started with the devs changing portals, now there changing mounts. Ask yourself what else are they gonna screw up? They could have just left the waterstrider alone and let it keep the ability. Alot of the equipment for mounts can already be found in game. Barding from leatherworkers and items from other professions. Seems like the devs are wasting time on reinventing the wheel again. When they could focus on fixing classes and rng.

They are litteraly giving you the item for free if you have gotten the water strider in the past your not losing any thing.

[Nathasil]

When i first heard "There is mount equipment coming to wow! It will allow you to ADD one effect to your mounts!" i was thrilled.

Now that i know how it works i'm just completely disappointed. As with EVERYTHING they cooked up in this horrible excuse of an expansion.

I play a priest. The most fucked class when it comes to ground mounted travel. No escapes, no sprints worth talking about, no tank spec to prevent dazes, no snares....NOTHING. Having the ability to prevent dazes would have been AWESOME. That's what i thought when i saw the tailoring announcements for BFA. "Nope. Better luck next time, sucker!" - that's what the tailoring buff worked out to be.

Now is that next time....and it's exactly the same again. Sure, i can use the no-daze equipment...but that means i will NEVER be able to ride over water ever again. So what this "addition" effectively does for me is removing the water strider from the game.

Yes, i know, i "gain" the daze protection! I'm being unfair and yadda, yadda...you know what? Just shut up. I NEVER used my strider as my standard mount. I just used it SPECIFICALLY to get over water. Nothing else. Just like i would not ride around in that horrible sky golem, because it's ugly.

There are consumeables to prevent the daze that last several hours. The same is NOT true for water walking. There are consumables for it, sure, but they are removed when you take damage.

I now have the "option" to either prevent the daze (which angers me plenty times every day) or to keep my water walking (which i use very rarely, but is extremely valuable whenever i do use it). This is not an "addition". It's not. It's just not.

The right thing to do would be to let the strider keep water walking but not let it benefit from equipment, just like the Sky Golem. Then grant EVERY equipement an additional 10% ground mount speed. Problem solved. But noooo. That would make too much sense. Instead i will soon have a water strider that cannot fucking stride on water.

What i will end up doing is to use the anti-daze equipment and levitate+walk over water when i have to. That's just what will happen. I would not call that an addition. It's a change, sure. Probably even a change i will benfit more from then lose. But seeing how tailoring should have already granted me immunity to daze months ago and never did i cannot really feel that great about this change. What i do feel is disappointment that they take away the water striding from a mount that is called "water strider".

This game really got a whole lot better in BFA compared to previous expansions. All these incredible additions, changes and stuff. I'm so hyped! Keep the good stuff coming, Blizzard! Everybody LOVES what you do with the game!

[Rozz]

Honestly, it seemed like a lazy system and encourage using only 1 mount.

If they had a system where families of mounts have different abilities, it would have been a lot better.

Example: Tigers jump high, horses prevent daze, striders and crocs allow water walking, etc....

I think the specialization is what caused the issue in the first place. In certain areas specific mounts were flat out better to use. The strider became a near necessity for many players because of this, thus began the reign of the Water Strider. If a different a mount would be immune to dazed, it'd be the same issue. Suddenly everyone would use those same two mounts, because travel is more annoying without them. And I'm not saying people don't have a choice, it's just that people naturally opt for the most convenience and the strider was far too convenient for many players to ignore.

I don't like the idea of taking a mount's specialty away for an item, but at the same this enables me to use more mounts I enjoy.

[schwarzkopf]

What would be more interesting is if the same idea was used on a per mount (account wide) basis - with existing mounts with special abilities not having a slot for the new mount glyph.

So I could slow fall my cat, water walk my hippo and daze proof my raptor ... etc etc.

[VladimirM]

that... sounds kind of horrible. i dont want 20 different mounts on my bars. i have summon random favorite mount.

This is the whole point. We are humans and we want different things. We can't all be satisfied.

[tikcol]

Honestly, it seemed like a lazy system and encourage using only 1 mount.

If they had a system where families of mounts have different abilities, it would have been a lot better.

Example: Tigers jump high, horses prevent daze, striders and crocs allow water walking, etc....

that's too high iq for an indie company

[Kathranis]

Why remove it in the first place? The one from garrison could have taken a bit to earn. Meaning all the hard work for it was for nothing. Not to mention if you bought the one from Karasang wilds for 5k gold. Means you just wasted 5k gold on a useless mount.

You do know that if you have the Water Strider mount already, you will get the equipment that gives you water walking when mounted for free, right?

In other words if you already have the Water Strider, you can log in, put in that equipment, and then you will have water walking on all of your mounts, for ever, on every character on your account.

They are not taking away a single fucking thing. They are only giving you more options than you had before.

[Frolk]

It does allow people to use the mount they want, gotta use a mount thats rare, or match ur tmog
Not a fan of the idea of mount families.

[Hobbidaggy]

I think the outrage is completely ridiculous. You are losing nothing but gaining other things. How many mounts get no use because you feel obligated to use the strider. You get forced into one mount and can’t change it otherwise you don’t get to walk on water when you’re out running around and have to mount swim around or dismount and remount.

You’re not being forced into it either. You can literally just equip the water walking shoes and still use your strider. The strider isn’t immune to equipment.

It is also a completely new and untested feature. They will be making changes to it and making more options open in the future as well. Don’t be so unhappy when you’re getting new stuff with no consequences

[AlmightyGerkin]

They are litteraly giving you the item for free if you have gotten the water strider in the past your not losing any thing.

They're removing what makes the water strider unique. Be like the equivalent of removing the sky golem's ability to herbalism while mounted. Slap in the face to people who grinded the Water Strider by giving others the option to water walk.

[dacoolist]

I’m super happy about it and so are my friends, tired of having to do ridiculous shit instead of just applying equipment and now I can use my random mounts once again

[MechaCThun]

Armchair developers outraged over something they dislike.




Come on, you all were already thinking it.

[huth]

Honestly, it seemed like a lazy system and encourage using only 1 mount.

As opposed to the current situation, where everybody and their dog uses the water strider...

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "encourage". It doesn't not mean "remove any reason to limit yourself to"

[Hobbidaggy]

Why remove it in the first place? The one from garrison could have taken a bit to earn. Meaning all the hard work for it was for nothing. Not to mention if you bought the one from Karasang wilds for 5k gold. Means you just wasted 5k gold on a useless mount. It started with the devs changing portals, now there changing mounts. Ask yourself what else are they gonna screw up? They could have just left the waterstrider alone and let it keep the ability. Alot of the equipment for mounts can already be found in game. Barding from leatherworkers and items from other professions. Seems like the devs are wasting time on reinventing the wheel again. When they could focus on fixing classes and rng.

What did they take away? Nothing is removed except the baked in feature on the strider, and they are giving you the ONLY REASON YOU USED THE STRIDER to all of your other mounts....they took it “away” from the strider because if they left it and it was immune to equipment it would be no different to equipping the water walking shoes as you wouldn’t get any other equipment effects. They also can’t let you have water walking AND equipment effects on the water strider as that would not change the issue and people would use the strider for 2 bonuses.