[Speculation] Sylvanas to capture N'Zoth in the empty blade

[TheFirstOnes]

Yes they are all connected in some way.

Except, understand that you have to be blessed in order to gain access to both the Halls of Valor, as well as the Dream. N'zoth and Yogg'saron specifically chose the dream to fuck around with the forces of Life, as well as the Titan Keepers. Remember who rules over the Dream. An aspect.

[huth]

Maybe the blade is Nzoth’s backup plan? Like “well death is gonna get everybody, but if they put me in that blade I cant die.”

Plot twist? Maybe azeroth is actually the villain. And nzoth is trying to gtfo.

I'm in favour of anything that ends up with us teaming up with N'zoth. Bonus points if both sides hate it.

[Satelliteyears0o]

Literally has been said about every single class that has come out since Wrath, so tell me another one. It fits the lore perfectly and there are both Alliance and Horde Races that are Dark Rangers now. DR will have a Melee and Ranged spec or a hybrid of the 2.

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His plan all along may have been to get to the Shadowlands and she could indeed be setting him up for success, but he is going in the blade to get there and that could potentially be the only way he can get there.

Personally, I knew since vanilla that deathknights and demon hunters would be added classes because they had always said that adding Hero classes in would be the plan, they made the most sense and still do. Monk was a great addition albeit not exactly a hero class per say, tho u can base them on the Pandaren brewmaster from WC3. Same thing with Tinkers, they make the most sense.

Tank (think d.va mech suit), ranged dps, healer that uses mail and ranged wep tech, it was a hero in wc3 and fits the recent sub-theme in bfa with all the mechagnome stuff.

A dark ranger (who was also a hero in WC3) is essentially an undead hunter with necromantic powers who can also mind control and thats it. What other roles do they fulfill besides ranged dps.

Obviously Im on that tinker train, but it seems vastly more feasible as a creative director to expand more on the engineering wonder of the gnomes n goblins than to try and make dark ranger fit on alliance as well. Now, with the faction dissolve rumored to come, this would cease to be a problem, then I could see this having more agency within new classes being considered, but there is a good chance they are already working on that new class and we got a month n a half to wait to find out :P

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Why? Cause a Comic showed a Void whisper tell Alleria that Sylvanas serves the true enemy? Kinda like how all Void Whispers state that the other cosmic force is the "true enemy"?

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"Because N'Zoth has the power to connect the Shadowlands to Azeroth."

You don't know this. None of us know this.

Unholy is right, he shadowlands are the opposite of the emerald dream.

[Unholyground]

Personally, I knew since vanilla that deathknights and demon hunters would be added classes because they had always said that adding Hero classes in would be the plan, they made the most sense and still do. Monk was a great addition albeit not exactly a hero class per say, tho u can base them on the Pandaren brewmaster from WC3. Same thing with Tinkers, they make the most sense.

Tank (think d.va mech suit), ranged dps, healer that uses mail and ranged wep tech, it was a hero in wc3 and fits the recent sub-theme in bfa with all the mechagnome stuff.

A dark ranger (who was also a hero in WC3) is essentially an undead hunter with necromantic powers who can also mind control and thats it. What other roles do they fulfill besides ranged dps.

Obviously Im on that tinker train, but it seems vastly more feasible as a creative director to expand more on the engineering wonder of the gnomes n goblins than to try and make dark ranger fit on alliance as well. Now, with the faction dissolve rumored to come, this would cease to be a problem, then I could see this having more agency within new classes being considered, but there is a good chance they are already working on that new class and we got a month n a half to wait to find out :P

They could blow our minds and add both lol. I just feel that Dark Ranger fits more with the current lore and was set up for both factions during the Darkshore events seeing Night Elves become them. Not to mention Nathanos has been training an army of Dark Rangers since Stormheim in Legion, there must be a fuckton of them now.

[Palapop]

Actually, the loyalist cutscene throws it out the window. Sylvanas wants N'zoth freed so he causes death and carnage. She has no intention of capturing it.

So if anything, the [Speculation] should be changed to [Debunked].

What some streamer says has no real bearing, since he's not privy to any more information on the topic than we are.

Did you even listen to what she said in that cutscene? lol....

[Satelliteyears0o]

Except, understand that you have to be blessed in order to gain access to both the Halls of Valor, as well as the Dream. N'zoth and Yogg'saron specifically chose the dream to fuck around with the forces of Life, as well as the Titan Keepers. Remember who rules over the Dream. An aspect.

Well.. Ysera was charged with its protection, by the titans. Freya was rumored to have created it but some say it already existed she just bridged it to the physical realm when she was forming G'Hanir which was the first world tree on azeroth. The emerald dream could very well be the azeroths dream. Corrupting the dream would be the best way for the old gods to ultimately corrupt azeroth since titans are unable to be corrupted otherwise in the physical realm.

[Engal]

Well.. Ysera was charged with its protection, by the titans. Freya was rumored to have created it but some say it already existed she just bridged it to the physical realm when she was forming G'Hanir which was the first world tree on azeroth. The emerald dream could very well be the azeroths dream. Corrupting the dream would be the best way for the old gods to ultimately corrupt azeroth since titans are unable to be corrupted otherwise in the physical realm.

Nzoth will control azeroth and rip out her world soul into the blade, and banish us into the shadowlands. We'll have to find our way out and fight whatever is downthere to come back to a world changed azeroth 20 years later. ( timeskip etc )

[8bithamster]

Personally, I knew since vanilla that deathknights and demon hunters would be added classes because they had always said that adding Hero classes in would be the plan, they made the most sense and still do. Monk was a great addition albeit not exactly a hero class per say, tho u can base them on the Pandaren brewmaster from WC3. Same thing with Tinkers, they make the most sense.

Tank (think d.va mech suit), ranged dps, healer that uses mail and ranged wep tech, it was a hero in wc3 and fits the recent sub-theme in bfa with all the mechagnome stuff.

A dark ranger (who was also a hero in WC3) is essentially an undead hunter with necromantic powers who can also mind control and thats it. What other roles do they fulfill besides ranged dps.

Obviously Im on that tinker train, but it seems vastly more feasible as a creative director to expand more on the engineering wonder of the gnomes n goblins than to try and make dark ranger fit on alliance as well. Now, with the faction dissolve rumored to come, this would cease to be a problem, then I could see this having more agency within new classes being considered, but there is a good chance they are already working on that new class and we got a month n a half to wait to find out :P

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Unholy is right, he shadowlands are the opposite of the emerald dream.

And here is the obligatory "OMG tinkers yo" post... Stop derailing every thread with your tinker obsession.

[Unholyground]

Nzoth will control azeroth and rip out her world soul into the blade, and banish us into the shadowlands. We'll have to find our way out and fight whatever is downthere to come back to a world changed azeroth 20 years later. ( timeskip etc )

The Shadowlands is a dark reflection of the Emerald Dream while the Nightmare is it's corruption and they are connected, N'Zoth going to the Shadowlands is the final key to everything but Sylvanas probably does not know this.

[Palapop]

The God of the Deep, so ancient and cunning, is too smart to fall for Sylvanas' little tricks. He could see her intentions coming from miles away. You forget that N'zoth is so intelligent that even defeats work in his favour. He will not be outsmarted by some upstart Banshee who cannot even win a war against a boy king.

ACTUALLY, if she wanted to fight at gates of ORG, she would win with an ease.

1.Shes EXTREMELY powerful atm. Almost non of these "important characters" who were in front of Org could match her current powers.

2. Her army is VASTLY superior compared to "rebels" we had there.
Just saying...

[Satelliteyears0o]

Nzoth will control azeroth and rip out her world soul into the blade, and banish us into the shadowlands. We'll have to find our way out and fight whatever is downthere to come back to a world changed azeroth 20 years later. ( timeskip etc )

I wouldnt mind that tbh, would be great.

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The Shadowlands is a dark reflection of the Emerald Dream while the Nightmare is it's corruption and they are connected, N'Zoth going to the Shadowlands is the final key to everything but Sylvanas probably does not know this.

Thats a very very good point. All this talk about him being in the shadowlands already, what if he wasnt? I doubt Sylvanas knows where the hell he really is cuz she just thinks shes right all the time. Cant wait to see her hot, sexy, stupid elf face when she realizes the 'truth.'

[huth]

Did you even listen to what she said in that cutscene? lol....

Did you? She explains how N'zoth is going to serve death. The blade plays no role in that.

[Powerogue]

N'zoth himself said the only reason the blade was there was to serve his will, and then you feel a compulsion that makes you take it to Sylvanas, who chuckles in an "mmmyes, all according to plan" sort of way as she uses it to lure the alliance and horde into a trap to kill them all, sells out Ashvane and her azerite weaponry to the naga, and break the chains of N'zoth.

Can't say this seems likely. They didn't pull a "he had a good reason all along guys!" out for Deathwing.

[TheFirstOnes]

The Shadowlands is a dark reflection of the Emerald Dream while the Nightmare is it's corruption and they are connected, N'Zoth going to the Shadowlands is the final key to everything but Sylvanas probably does not know this.

My assumption is that Sylvanas will try to either capture of have him killed in the end, however this will backfire completely as Ny'alotha is either directly connected to the Shadowlands, or is in the Shadowlands, leading Sylvanas to either death or another typical Villain runaway scene (The latter will probably occur).

Afterwards, we'll lead into 9.0 with the ruler of the Death Cosmology, Elune, Tyrande's BS, Dragons, and the rise of the Shadow.

[Unholyground]

My assumption is that Sylvanas will try to either capture of have him killed in the end, however this will backfire completely as Ny'alotha is either directly connected to the Shadowlands, or is in the Shadowlands, leading Sylvanas to either death or another typical Villain runaway scene (The latter will probably occur).

Afterwards, we'll lead into 9.0 with the ruler of the Death Cosmology, Elune, Tyrande's BS, Dragons, and the rise of the Shadow.

Ya probably something like that, my guess is that his physical body is dormant in the Shadowlands and bringing his essence there is going to give him his full power.

[TheFirstOnes]

ACTUALLY, if she wanted to fight at gates of ORG, she would win with an ease.

1.Shes EXTREMELY powerful atm. Almost non of these "important characters" who were in front of Org could match her current powers.

2. Her army is VASTLY superior compared to "rebels" we had there.
Just saying...

"Her Army" What army?

"Sylvanas is extremely powerful"

And N'zoth's a fucking Old God. Your point?

[Life-Binder]

knaifu isnt the ony way to deal with Nzoth tbh


he will be weakened by hordiance + Sylvanas' death boss or she herself gets buffed by massive soul energies = can pwn NZoth

[TheFirstOnes]

Ya probably something like that, my guess is that his physical body is dormant in the Shadowlands and bringing his essence there is going to give him his full power.

Yeah. My assumption is that 8.3 is Ny'alotha (Like how 7.3 was Argus). 9.0 is about what I've said above. And 10.0 is the Final Battle, with the return of the Pantheon (As well as Illidan and Sargeras), Azeroth's World Souls' awakening, the Void Lords' Demise, and Anduin leading the Armies of Azeroth against the Shadow. All while the Players actually do the cool shit, with the final Title being "The Savior of Creation" or something like that.

Would be a pretty great conclusion to the WC Story, as we're about to end the Faction Conflict, the Old God threat, as well as others. Not to mention that the "5th" Old God we see in Chronicles has Life and Death tendrils around it, which would also lead perfectly into the next Expansion. So, in 9.0, we may very well see Xal'atath's end as well.

[Life-Binder]

> imaging thinking 10.0 would be the last expansion

WoW has at least 10-15 more years

[TheFirstOnes]

knaifu isnt the ony way to deal with Nzoth tbh


he will be weakened by hordiance + Sylvanas' death boss or she herself gets buffed by massive soul energies = can pwn NZoth

Sylvanas' "boss" (She's not alone here, Helya, and Bwonsamdi also have a boss) will not be revealed this expansion. He/She will be revealed in 9.0. Similar to how we didn't see Sargeras until Legion (And that was at the very end of it), or how we haven't heard of the Void Lords up until the neigh end of the Legion threat with Legion's announcement, as well as the Chronicle's release.

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> imaging thinking 10.0 would be the last expansion

WoW has at least 10-15 more years

Where do we go from here though? It's obvious that the next Expansion will likely be about Dragons, Death, Elune and all (And because of this, Asmongold will have to shave his head), so what happens afterwards? The Void Lords, the united Factions, the Light, and the final battle for all of Creation. Simple.