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  1. #321
    If you are ok with this, then you are beyond saving lmao.

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    I can see this law not lasting very long in all fairness, I am all for protecting kids from content they shouldn't really be seeing - however the personal data concerns as well as the prevalence of VPN technology means that the ability to bypass this for the majority of people who are technically inclined means its not really going to be as effective as the government thinks it is.

    Best way to approach this issue in my opinion? better sex education at school age in order to educate properly what its all about, rather than taking stupid actions like this.

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  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by Stands in the Fire View Post
    It's for under 18 people only.

    Do you think people under 18 need protecting? Do you think the ban will have a positive affect?
    lol in a way it's a good thing, people watch too much porn, leave the house and actually talk to real women you children

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    Too bad there is 0 way to actually enforce it without breaching personal privacy.
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  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    Yes, absolutely. The owner will most likely lose his licence and the father his kid; that's how it works.
    You're still not getting this. The father goes to the store alone and buys a beer. He goes home and gives it to his son. Now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    A lot can happen. If your kid starts to display abnormal behaviour at school, for instance, the teachers can raise a red flag. It happens all the time with abuse.
    I'm saying LEGALLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grow up you manchildren View Post
    lol in a way it's a good thing, people watch too much porn, leave the house and actually talk to real women you children
    Imagine posting this on an alt account on a forum about MMOs without noticing any irony lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You're still not getting this. The father goes to the store alone and buys a beer. He goes home and gives it to his son. Now what?
    Oh, I'm getting it, but it's a moot point, isn't it? There is no cut and dried solution for shrouded abuse. There are cases of parents giving babies alprazolam because they were crying, or attendants abusing children at day care, etc. This all happens behind close doors and is quite difficult to uncover unless you have a sharp eye for behavioural deviations which professional educators usually have, hence the afore-mentioned "red flags".

    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I'm saying LEGALLY.
    Do you mean to ask what could happen to you from a legal perspective? In this case, I'm not sure though but I suspect it would depend on the child's age.

    I'm quite curious about this as well; isn't there any information online about the consequences of cirumventing the age-check and accessing porn anyway?
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  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You're still not getting this. The father goes to the store alone and buys a beer. He goes home and gives it to his son. Now what?
    That is completely legal behaviour in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    Oh, I'm getting it, but it's a moot point, isn't it? There is no cut and dried solution for shrouded abuse. There are cases of parents giving babies alprazolam because they were crying, or attendants abusing children at day care, etc. This all happens behind close doors and is quite difficult to uncover unless you have a sharp eye for behavioural deviations which professional educators usually have, hence the afore-mentioned "red flags".
    It's not a moot point, at the moment society controls access to alcohol by prohibiting the sale of alcohol to minors - the vendors are punished if they break that law. But you can buy a beer for your under-age child, the state doesn't currently have the right to tell you how to raise your kids. Ie, whether or not your child is allowed to drink under the state-mandated age is left up to the parents.

    Same situation with film classifications and restrictions. You can punish a theater for letting a child into a restricted film. But if a parent decides to allow their kid to see it, they can.

    You're talking about a change to that, where the state CAN intervene in that parent's decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    Do you mean to ask what could happen to you from a legal perspective? In this case, I'm not sure though but I suspect it would depend on the child's age.

    I'm quite curious about this as well; isn't there any information online about the consequences of cirumventing the age-check and accessing porn anyway?
    As far as I know there isn't any law against a parent choosing to show a child a film classified as adults only. That's their prerogative.

    Whether or not you can classify showing a child sexual content as a parenting choice, or if the state has a right to intervene and call that child abuse, is the exact grey area I'm asking you to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    That is completely legal behaviour in the UK.
    That was my point. Same in the US I believe.
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    It's not like teenagers won't know any better than to input a date less than 18 amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    It's not a moot point, at the moment society controls access to alcohol by prohibiting the sale of alcohol to minors - the vendors are punished if they break that law. But you can buy a beer for your under-age child, the state doesn't currently have the right to tell you how to raise your kids. Ie, whether or not your child is allowed to drink under the state-mandated age is left up to the parents.

    Same situation with film classifications and restrictions. You can punish a theater for letting a child into a restricted film. But if a parent decides to allow their kid to see it, they can.

    You're talking about a change to that, where the state CAN intervene in that parent's decision.



    As far as I know there isn't any law against a parent choosing to show a child a film classified as adults only. That's their prerogative.

    Whether or not you can classify showing a child sexual content as a parenting choice, or if the state has a right to intervene and call that child abuse, is the exact grey area I'm asking you to think about.

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    That was my point. Same in the US I believe.
    I don’t know where you’re from, but here you will lose your kid if anyone sees him or her watch porn with cold one. Needless to say, we’re not talking about 16 year olds here. A moot point because there isn’t a solution. Moot = often discussed, without a definite answer or solution.

    Anyway, I feel like the vehemence for the subject has died, for good reason, therefore I’ll leave it at this.
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