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    Kajamite / Azerite / Saronite

    So basically Goblins became intelligent upon exposing themselves with Kajamite similar to how Dark Trolls have been granted the Kal'dorei their huge make over, all sponsored by the WoE.

    Does it mean that the three minerals indeed have transformative power similar to Azerite and the common denominator for the three would be the concept of blood?

    Now that the Gilblins will come with 8.2 patch would this mean that the Goblins used to be underwater creatures or the Gilblins used to be land dwellers similar to the Kal'dorei and they underwent aquatic mutation?


    It seems both Goblins and Gnomes are creation of Mimiron. Experiments to be exact.
    Grong's intelligence might also been brought by thr Kajamite in Zuldazar.
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    I'd guess it'd depend mostly on what is using it and how much of it, for example earth elementals can be almost completely changed by Azerite, while the only change Saronite does to Ghouls is give them a bunch of Saronite spikes sticking out of them, meanwhile Kajamite's effects the intelligence of a creature, and with goblins as the main example Kajamite needs to be regularly ingested to maintain the intelligence gained from it, as goblins that were isolated from any sources of it returned to their less than stellar intelligence similar to that of Pygmies

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    Saronite is from old god and it makes you insane. In reaction with nature magic it creates Emerald Nightmare. Undead are resistant to it.

    Azerite, blood of titan, transformed trolls into elves, granting them immortality, immunity to all diseases and immense arcane power. It's highly addictive and withdrawal makes you suspectible to most of diseases.

    Kaja'mite is the most mysterious, as we don't know if it is connected to some higher being. This mineral increases intelligence of wildlife around it. Its effects, however, vanish after few generations from being cut of kaja'mite. Zandalari use it for voodoo.
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    The three minerals affects a sentient being's mind. Either to make their IQ increase several folds or drive them mad.

    I believe that Saronite though it is attributed with Yoggy, the blood itself was still from Azeroth since the old gods siphon and leeches life and power from her and most probably from her blood or life essence. They are parasite anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    In reaction with nature magic it creates Emerald Nightmare.
    Isn't Nightmare just Old Gods corruption of the Dream? Not sure it has much to do with Saronite since apparently all Old Gods (but mostly N'Zoth) helped creating the Emerald Nightmare through Yogg-Saron's breach, which was made through the contact of Andrassil's roots with his imprisoned body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    The three minerals affects a sentient being's mind. Either to make their IQ increase several folds or drive them mad.

    I believe that Saro ite though it is attributed with Yoggy, the blood itself was still from Azeroth since the old gods siphon and leeches life and power from her and most probably from her blood or life essence. They are parasite anyways.
    Saronite is just Yogg-Saron's blood. A mosquito can drink as much blood as it wants, it still has it's own blood. There are no indications that his Blood is a modification from Azeroth's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    Saronite is from old god and it makes you insane. In reaction with nature magic it creates Emerald Nightmare. Undead are resistant to it.

    Azerite, blood of titan, transformed trolls into elves, granting them immortality, immunity to all diseases and immense arcane power. It's highly addictive and withdrawal makes you suspectible to most of diseases.

    Kaja'mite is the most mysterious, as we don't know if it is connected to some higher being. This mineral increases intelligence of wildlife around it. Its effects, however, vanish after few generations from being cut of kaja'mite. Zandalari use it for voodoo.
    Not sure about disease but the immortality came from the 5 dragonflights blessing Nordrassil as a world tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Not sure about disease but the immortality came from the 5 dragonflights blessing Nordrassil as a world tree.
    They were immortal, due to the well of eternity as well. The first time in their entire history the night elves became mortal once Malfurion used Nordrassil to stop Kil'jaeden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    Isn't Nightmare just Old Gods corruption of the Dream? Not sure it has much to do with Saronite since apparently all Old Gods (but mostly N'Zoth) helped creating the Emerald Nightmare through Yogg-Saron's breach, which was made through the contact of Andrassil's roots with his imprisoned body.
    Base on how I understand things, it seems like the corruption was brought by the world tree itself since the roots would probably be way too deep and could have reached Azeroth's core already and the OG's gained knowledge how to exploit it.

    So cutting the trees would somehow turn off the signal from the communications tower which somehow be behind the scene plan of Sylvanas why she directly decided to attack Teldrassil that could be the only explanation for her "saving grace anti-hero" character right now. Some of the roots dug into one of the og's prison while some of the roots of the same tree went towards Azeroth's core or even heart.

    Maybe that was also the reason why Azshara hates going near a world tree and instead she went directly to N'Zoth after allying herself with Sargeras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    Isn't Nightmare just Old Gods corruption of the Dream? Not sure it has much to do with Saronite since apparently all Old Gods (but mostly N'Zoth) helped creating the Emerald Nightmare through Yogg-Saron's breach, which was made through the contact of Andrassil's roots with his imprisoned body.

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    Saronite is just Yogg-Saron's blood. A mosquito can drink as much blood as it wants, it still has it's own blood. There are no indications that his Blood is a modification from Azeroth's.
    Yes a blood leeching specie has it's own blood but take note that whatever blood from the host becomes part of it's own system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    They were immortal, due to the well of eternity as well. The first time in their entire history the night elves became mortal once Malfurion used Nordrassil to stop Kil'jaeden.
    Even Malfurion himself sacrificed the world tree and caused it to burn just to defeat Archimonde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    They were immortal, due to the well of eternity as well. The first time in their entire history the night elves became mortal once Malfurion used Nordrassil to stop Kil'jaeden.
    this, many people can't into reading to realize that the tree blessing was done to restore what the faithful night elves had lost with the well of eternity.
    also if you didn't know the night elves were immortal prior to the blessing THE NAME MIGHT'VE BEEN A CLUE

    the

    WELL.


    OF

    ETERNITY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikath View Post
    this, many people can't into reading to realize that the tree blessing was done to restore what the faithful night elves had lost with the well of eternity.
    also if you didn't know the night elves were immortal prior to the blessing THE NAME MIGHT'VE BEEN A CLUE

    the

    WELL.


    OF

    ETERNITY.
    And Azshara's Eternal Palace which are the only Kal'dorei who are still in a sense immortal since they defied death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    Base on how I understand things
    you don't, the corruption of teldrassil was done by splicing a piece of the already corrupted tree that malfurion grew from an arrow xavius was shot with.

    the trees are suppressive forces against the corruption of the old gods channeling immense natural and arcane forces to that endeavor, this may infact be the goal of all life on azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikath View Post
    you don't, the corruption of teldrassil was done by splicing a piece of the already corrupted tree that malfurion grew from an arrow xavius was shot with.

    the trees are suppressive forces against the corruption of the old gods channeling immense natural and arcane forces to that endeavor, this may infact be the goal of all life on azeroth.
    But it seems it has defeated it's very own purpose and made use as a weapon against it's intended purpose instead.
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    it would be more accurate to refer to saronite and azurite as ichor where kajamite is mineral with no knowledge on it's source.
    the latter two are divine blood carrying immense magical power and otherworldly effects, what denotes the azurite is it's ability to effect EVERYTHING.
    elementals, undead, spirits, all living races, and even weapons the sheer "it's got what it needs" that this substance has is bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    But it seems
    no, it doesn't.
    it's a charred heap now even after said corruption was cleansed 3 expacs ago after cenarius returned.
    and now the old god forces that were sealed on the broken shore are freed to be farmed weekly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikath View Post
    it would be more accurate to refer to saronite and azurite as ichor where kajamite is mineral with no knowledge on it's source.
    the latter two are divine blood carrying immense magical power and otherworldly effects, what denotes the azurite is it's ability to effect EVERYTHING.
    elementals, undead, spirits, all living races, and even weapons the sheer "it's got what it needs" that this substance has is bizarre.

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    no, it doesn't.
    it's a charred heap now even after said corruption was cleansed 3 expacs ago after cenarius returned.
    and now the old god forces that were sealed on the broken shore are freed to be farmed weekly.
    Maybe it would be safe to assume that Kajamite might be blood of Kaja perhaps? But if Kaja is a being of some sort, what kind would it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Not sure about disease but the immortality came from the 5 dragonflights blessing Nordrassil as a world tree.
    They were immortal before the Sundering too. Later, Quel'dorei used a vial from Well of Eternity too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    They were immortal, due to the well of eternity as well. The first time in their entire history the night elves became mortal once Malfurion used Nordrassil to stop Kil'jaeden.
    And between Sundering and planting Nordrassil which could mean a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    Maybe it would be safe to assume that Kajamite might be blood of Kaja perhaps? But if Kaja is a being of some sort, what kind would it be?
    it's never safe to assume, and no, the goblins name it kaja'mite out of nowhere.
    we call saronite and azerite for yogg'saron and azeroth, because we know they are the source of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikath View Post
    it's never safe to assume, and no, the goblin's names it kaja'mite out of nowhere.
    we call saronite and azerite for yogg'saron and azeroth, because we know they are the source of it.
    But Kajamite existed even before the sundering and might be existing during the heights of the Black Empire. Who knows Goblin was the first creation of Mimiron instead of the Earthen races and mechagnomes.

    According to an entry about Kajamite and Goblins, Mimiron experimented on a lifeform living in the forest near Ulduar. So, it only means Stormy peaks prior to it's glaciation used to be a lush jungle or forrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Not sure about disease but the immortality came from the 5 dragonflights blessing Nordrassil as a world tree.
    Nordrassil didn't even exist back then.

    The Night elves were immortal beings thanks to the WoE.
    After the WotA they planted Nordrassil over Hyjals new WoE to cover it's power.

    And THEN the tree got blessed by the Aspects.
    By Alex to extend the trees strength and vitality, by Ysera to attune it to the ED and by Noz to grant the Nelves immortality again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Nordrassil didn't even exist back then.

    The Night elves were immortal beings thanks to the WoE.
    After the WotA they planted Nordrassil over Hyjals new WoE to cover it's power.

    And THEN the tree got blessed by Nozdormu so they became immortal again.
    Also Teldrassil which is the latest WT but now it is quasi-existing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    Saronite is from old god and it makes you insane. In reaction with nature magic it creates Emerald Nightmare. Undead are resistant to it.

    Azerite, blood of titan, transformed trolls into elves, granting them immortality, immunity to all diseases and immense arcane power. It's highly addictive and withdrawal makes you suspectible to most of diseases.

    Kaja'mite is the most mysterious, as we don't know if it is connected to some higher being. This mineral increases intelligence of wildlife around it. Its effects, however, vanish after few generations from being cut of kaja'mite. Zandalari use it for voodoo.
    Nope. Immortality and immunity to diseases was a gift from the Aspects and the arcane power came from the Well of Eternity

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