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  1. #81
    I do wonder if the French and British handnt gone back on their promises to the Arabic people during ww1 what the world would be like today

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Again you are projecting your shitty identity politics into this situation because reasons? And while we are at it aren't conservatives overwhelmingly the ones that use and benefit from social programs such as welfare in the US?
    No, the left-right is ideological, not based on identity such as gender or race. As far as welfare, Democrat individuals were the bigger takers last I checked.

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    People like you have made me embrace the report system, that I previously took great joys in avoiding.
    Using it as intended I see.

    *Press report button*
    *Types in reason*

    "Someone on the internet said something that doesn't agree with my view."
    *Press submit*
    *Dusts off hands*

    "I'm a hero"

    If you hide in the population, expect that population to die. Israel isn't killing civilians. Terrorists are.
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    why so mad bro

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    Its a tough situation. Both sides want to kill each other, so peace is impossible. Only one side will survive.
    You're lying. Israel doesn't want to exterminate Palestinians. We want to be fully separated from them, that's what is true.

    Most of us is fine with them have their state, but it can only exist as a fully demilitarized state because of these people' aggressive nature.
    If they completely disarm and stop terrorism, only then they are going to get anything at all.
    Last edited by Ermelloth; 2019-05-05 at 01:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    What you have posted is US thing. In other parts of world left/right have different meanings and vast majority of people don't think in absolutes, so left/right (in US definition) parties are rare.
    It's just a fact that the left is about equality as the ultimate value. Where as the right is about either social order, hierarchy, or tradition.

    (Libertarians want liberty obviously)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Najnaj View Post
    It really is simple, don't treat people like shit if you want them to be nice to you.
    have you said this to the palestinians?
    "It doesn't matter if you believe me or not but common sense doesn't really work here. You're mad, I'm mad. We're all MAD here."

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    I think there are a lot of Israelis who don't like how the government treats Palestinians. But what options do these Jews have? Do you let the Muslims wipe Israel off the map?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Najnaj View Post
    It really is simple, don't treat people like shit if you want them to be nice to you.
    Yes, because you really know what it's like being a Muslim living in Israel versus one in Palestine. I can almost guarantee that the life of Muslims in Israel is much safer and stable even if the government only is giving them passable rights, than it is living in Palestine. When your government uses you as human shields and sets up military operations in civilian areas, it's pretty easy to see which government values human life more.

    Congrats to the 11 fools who made the ignore list, your ignorance knows no bounds, bravo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    Hamas regularly shoots it's own citizens, but of course Israel is labelled by the media as the bad guy.
    Israel is the only democracy in the middle east by the way.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/o...rip-hamas.html

    It's sad because Palestine regularly receives over 1 billion in funding and they could have put that money to good use instead of building bombs and attack tunnels.
    Hamas is trying call the attention for the Palestinians struggle to get their territory back, even though they haven't chosen the best stratategy.

    Israel IS the bad guy. It's very foundation lives up to the worst anti-semitic stereotypes.

    I don't care about all the talk about it being a democracy or not. If that's a democracy, then F democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ermelloth View Post
    You're lying. Israel doesn't want to exterminate Palestinians.
    The people of course not crazy corrupt racist right wing Bibi of course he does he would bathe in their blood if it wasn't for how it looks so he is opting to do it slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefolk View Post
    I think there are a lot of Israelis who don't like how the government treats Palestinians. But what options do these Jews have? Do you let the Muslims wipe Israel off the map?
    The ideal solution would be to wipe Hamas off the map, but defeating militants is probably one of the more time consuming and difficult military tasks.

    Congrats to the 11 fools who made the ignore list, your ignorance knows no bounds, bravo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by horbindr View Post
    it's a good way to hurt israels economy i guess.

    they probably know they are unlikely to kill anyone or hit something valuable. but defending cost a lot more than attacking. they probably spend a few thousand per missile tops, while israels defense missiles are "cheap" at $50k orso, and then there is the whole infrastructure and personnel cost to keep it running.

    so yeah if israel has to budget for defense against large volumes of cheap missiles at random times and random places, that's quite a chunk of change they can't spend on offensive weapons or schools or w/e. and if they ever do hit something valuable, that's just a nice bonus for them, but at this point in the conflict, i doubt it's the primary goal anymore.
    Well... You don't really hurt Israeli economy when their economy is ran by Americans and Germans tax money.

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    Mahdi = End times in Islam

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    No, the left-right is ideological, not based on identity such as gender or race. As far as welfare, Democrat individuals were the bigger takers last I checked.
    An ideology that the people in question in this thread care little to nothing about. Again I ask why you must project your identity politics in a thread about people being bombed in warzone in the middle east? Also lol @ saying Palestinians being incorporated into an Israel one state, then calling them 'left'. You aren't that familiar with the history of these people I take it?
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    Klling a new born is not much morally different than a late term abortion. Should be avoided, but it's not like it is an actual person yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSM View Post
    Hamas is trying call the attention for the Palestinians struggle to get their territory back, even though they haven't chosen the best stratategy.
    It's not their territory. Jews had the region before Muslims even existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    An ideology that the people in question in this thread care little to nothing about. Again I ask why you must project your identity politics in a thread about people being bombed in warzone in the middle east?

    Also I'd check again if I were you.
    Again, the left/right is ideological politics, not identity politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post



    Again, the left/right is ideological politics, not identity politics.
    Identity politics is an ideology...
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Klling a new born is not much morally different than a late term abortion. Should be avoided, but it's not like it is an actual person yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Identity politics is an ideology...
    Identity politics is bad. I think we agree there.

    Left and right *ideas* however exist independent of any partcular person's identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Identity politics is bad. I think we agree there.

    Left and right *ideas* however exist independent of any partcular person's identity.
    Unless you identify as right/left... which a large percentage of Americans do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer of Leftism View Post
    While I certainly support more sex for more people and don't think the old norms are viable, it's also become pretty obvious that leftists only support sexual freedom because they think it will spread STDs more, damage the family and damage society. Their intentions are not to spread more freedom, they just want people sick, hopefully dependent on their healthcare too.
    Yes, someone actually said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    It's not their territory. Jews had the region before Muslims even existed.
    if you want to open that can of worms it will turn ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    It's not their territory. Jews had the region before Muslims even existed.
    No they hadn't. They were a tiny minority there.

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