No, they are not. /thread
Thing is the scarlet crusade was not 80+% of the human race at one point. the scarlet crusade was pretty much always a minority who were hated.
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Thing is there was never a massive majority of evil humans
there was many, many times a massive majoirty of evil orcs.
orcs are feral by nature, blood hungry and such, while yes this could be called racist "cause people say this about IRL races" this is a video game, where we have stuff like the animations leading to wod where it was very much pointed out to us orcs are bloodthirsty by nature, and enter bloodlusts in combat, unable to distinct ally from enemy, why durotan wears his wolves pelt.
Humorous how in real world, a certain kingdom's pilgrims did the same thing to a "new world" to the west. We now call that place 'Murica.
Yeah, in that regard, Draenei are dicks. Velen himself had to own up to that in a way when Illidan threw it in his face during Legion that he is more or less an interstellar coward, running from his problems and vicariously bringing his problems to others' doorsteps, namely Orcs and eventually denizens of Azeroth. The corruption of the Orcs can be blamed solely on Velen and the Draenei and justifiably so.You also have a prophet as a leader who knows for a fact that he is being pursued by space Lucifer and its only a matter of time before space Lucifer catches up
The orcs and ogres of this world have no greater concept of evil
And you do absolutely nothing to warn them of the great evil that is coming
AND IN A MOVE THAT SURPRISED NO ONE SPACE LUCIFER WAS ABLE TO CORRUPT PRIMITIVES
Pretty much on point.Proceed to leave Draenor a fel shattered rock and try to play the victim about it
Yeah, like if there was no draenei, the Burning Crusade would just chill on the outskirts of some galaxy far-far away.
Without draenei the Legion would come to that unnamed peaceful shamanistic planet a few years later and orcs would just genocided each other in a global warfare. Survivors, definitely the traitors of the kind, would become demons and nobody on the Azeroth would knew or care about some pig-faced grunts planet that was crusaded by the Legion like those hundreds of others.
The Orcs were aliens to Draenor, too, and the only reason the Draenei had to name the planet was because of this:
Velen: "Greetings, brown one! My people and i would love to settle on your beautiful world! By the way....what is the name of this planet?"
Orc: "Uh...oh....Orc smash?"
Velen: "I see."
From what we know, the only actual natives of Draenor are the Primals and the Arakkoa. The Arakkoa named the planet "Rakshar". So if you are really that concerned with mistreated natives, this is the name you should use.
By the way: Both the Primals and the Arakkoa were genocided by the Orcs in at least two timelines.
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Orcs were brown originally, my bad.
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Once again Felplague spreading a bunch of nonsense, do you realize the genocide to the trolls, Garithos and his forces with the Kirin tor wanting to kill Kael'thas, supporting the purge of Dalaran, hailing Arthas as a hero in his return from Northrend despite of Uther trying to portray him as a villain(short but still happened).
The humans are literally the mirrow of the orcs only difference one side has a better PR department and writers at their side
Not evil, just stupid.
Remember when Velen told NEs their religion was wrong to their faces, when they're the only race with a canon god? Yeah, smart times.
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Genocide against the trolls... the ones that scalped people, made them into dried body parts, and canabalized humans? hmmm
garithos was not evil, just abit of a racist to the elves, which is bad, but not evil when compared to right out mass genocide.
not liking elves is far better then mass genocide.
wanting to kill kalethas... hmmm i wonder why...
supporting the purge of dalaran? scooz me? did you hear varians reaction? also the purge of dalaran was not "humans being evil" you do know ALOT of the purge was done by ELVES right? do you forget the one who did most of the killing was vereesa... AN ELF. also the purge of dalaran was not just people being evil, it was a fight after the horde had betrayed the neutralitly of the city for the first time.
hailing arthas as a hero? when he returned and killed his father NOT A SINGLE SANE HUMAN PRAISED HIM.
when he returned yes, cause no one knew what happened in northrend.
you seriously are twisting everything just like op my dude.
Mind telling me when the alliance commit genocide to an innocent defencless race they were allies with until that moment? when they slaughtered their prisonsers, enslaves, raped, murdered, tortured, and drained the souls of? mind telling me when the humans destroyed a planet, and hoped to destroy hundreds more?
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Orcs are not aliens to draenor, they were descendents of ogres. who were descendents of ogron, who were descendents of gronn, and those descendents of the giant (cant remember their names) the huge stone creatures we see on draenor.
but yes the orcs had no name for the planet, so the draenei named it and the orcs went "sure"
Why was trying to kill kael'thas okay? He successfully won the battle that Garithos sent him on as a suicide mission. So what if he used the aid of some strange allies in order to win the battle? He won. Kael'thas was the rightful and sovereign ruler of the Sin'dorei and Kirin'tor had no right to imprison him.
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The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
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http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
To be fair, the Draenei were the result of a retcon for TBC. Originally the Eredar were all evil, and Metzen wanted them to be playable. Anything that doesn't seem like the tightest storytelling would be the result of this, much like the Blood Elves who had their allegiance changed to suit gameplay needs.
Yes it was good that he won, but he used "strange allies"
again no where am i saying garithos is a good guy, or that kaelthas at that moment deserved to die. (Even though it would not take long for him to become the villian we all knew)
but that most humans were not like garithos, or agree with him, or encourage what he did, unlike the orcs where genocide was "the norm" and those who refused were the outcasts.
The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
Thrall
http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power