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    Is Queen Azshara really Chris Metzens self insert into WoW?

    Chris Metzen renamed Rudolph the reindeer after himself so we can celebrate him every Christmas.

    Chris Metzen had a literal statue built of him that he accepted that is placed in the lobby of Blizzard Headquarters in Irvine that is not modest in ANY way and instead is modeled after Walt Disney's statue where instead of Disney holding the hand of Mickey Mouse, he is holding the hand of Winston from Overwatch.

    Metzen's self-chosen self-insert, Thrall, comes back as green Jesus again ready to save the horde and all of Azeroth from the war and from Sylvanas.

    So let's review Chris Metzen:

    1. He thinks highly of himself, inserting himself into holidays and getting statues built of him like a god.
    2. Has a savior complex.

    Who does this remind you of? Azshara. Azshara has statues of herself everywhere, she thinks she's god's gift to her people. She is her people's savior.

    You could make a case that Azshara represents Chris Metzen's true nature. Its his true self-insert into WoW. Just not the one he intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    1. He thinks highly of himself, inserting himself into holidays and getting statues built of him like a god.
    2. Has a savior complex.
    You've obviously never met Metzen.
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    You're just jealous that he is richer and more handsome than you.

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    I like Metzen the guy, haven't liked his self inserts in years, Thrall..erm...Go'el in a long while.

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    No she's not. That's just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Chris Metzen renamed Rudolph the reindeer after himself so we can celebrate him every Christmas.

    Chris Metzen had a literal statue built of him that he accepted that is placed in the lobby of Blizzard Headquarters in Irvine that is not modest in ANY way and instead is modeled after Walt Disney's statue where instead of Disney holding the hand of Mickey Mouse, he is holding the hand of Winston from Overwatch.

    Metzen's self-chosen self-insert, Thrall, comes back as green Jesus again ready to save the horde and all of Azeroth from the war and from Sylvanas.

    So let's review Chris Metzen:

    1. He thinks highly of himself, inserting himself into holidays and getting statues built of him like a god.
    2. Has a savior complex.

    Who does this remind you of? Azshara. Azshara has statues of herself everywhere, she thinks she's god's gift to her people. She is her people's savior.

    You could make a case that Azshara represents Chris Metzen's true nature. Its his true self-insert into WoW. Just not the one he intended.
    Yeah, you clearly have not met or heard the guy himself talk much xD

    First of all, there is a reason why Metzen is highly regarded in the Blizzard community, because he is very much the creative backbone of WoW and has been one of the few people who really made the world of Warcraf come alive. Blizzard as a company owe much of their current and past success to the mind of Metzen, so it makes sense they honor him.

    Thrall is also not a self-insertion of him. He is the voice of Thrall, because when they made Warcraft 3, he was there and it was easier to have a designer deliver a voice. Besides, if anybody says that the voice acting he does is bad, are just insane.

    Finally, the reindeer Metzen, is just a long line of characters who have been named after devs in the game. I think you would have to look far and wide for a senior member of Blizzard, who does NOT have a character reference to the game xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Chris Metzen renamed Rudolph the reindeer after himself so we can celebrate him every Christmas.
    Holy Metzen, one has to reach really deep reach that conclusion since we celebrate "Father Winter" and not "Metzen" in the game.
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    She is not his self-insert simply because she is a woman and he is a man. By its very definition, a self-insert character must be of the same gender of the author. Blightcaller is male like Danuser, Jaina is female like Golden.

    For example, I wouldn't say that Anduin is Golden's self-insert, it doesn't make sense. He is Golden's little child, but he isn't literally her self-insert because then he would have to be a girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Chris Metzen renamed Rudolph the reindeer after himself so we can celebrate him every Christmas.

    Chris Metzen had a literal statue built of him that he accepted that is placed in the lobby of Blizzard Headquarters in Irvine that is not modest in ANY way and instead is modeled after Walt Disney's statue where instead of Disney holding the hand of Mickey Mouse, he is holding the hand of Winston from Overwatch.

    Metzen's self-chosen self-insert, Thrall, comes back as green Jesus again ready to save the horde and all of Azeroth from the war and from Sylvanas.

    So let's review Chris Metzen:

    1. He thinks highly of himself, inserting himself into holidays and getting statues built of him like a god.
    2. Has a savior complex.

    Who does this remind you of? Azshara. Azshara has statues of herself everywhere, she thinks she's god's gift to her people. She is her people's savior.

    You could make a case that Azshara represents Chris Metzen's true nature. Its his true self-insert into WoW. Just not the one he intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    You've obviously never met Metzen.
    Having your statue erected when you are alive is low at best. He should have rejected this travesty.

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    Op, your post is just some rambling pathetic bias showing a jealous and childish attitude to someone with more success and likeability then you could hope to obtain.

    Grow up.

    Then again like people are saying, your clearly a freshman to all this and haven't even bothered to do your research, so I'm not expecting much else from this.
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    Person who had/has an extremely large part in creating the entire universe upon which we spend out days playing (and in OPs case complaining about).
    and your surprised they didnt include easter eggs? of many many many many many things.
    hell every diablo game has literally had a cave full of zombies named after every dev that worked on it.

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    Say what you will about anybody who you believe has a “complex”


    But you put your own quote as your signature.

    Let’s talk about “complexes” then.

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    And the "dumbest thread ever" award goes to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Void Fallen View Post
    By its very definition, a self-insert character must be of the same gender of the author.
    I feel like this isn't necessarily true, though I can't think of an example to refute it at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Chris Metzen renamed Rudolph the reindeer after himself so we can celebrate him every Christmas.

    Chris Metzen had a literal statue built of him that he accepted that is placed in the lobby of Blizzard Headquarters in Irvine that is not modest in ANY way and instead is modeled after Walt Disney's statue where instead of Disney holding the hand of Mickey Mouse, he is holding the hand of Winston from Overwatch.

    Metzen's self-chosen self-insert, Thrall, comes back as green Jesus again ready to save the horde and all of Azeroth from the war and from Sylvanas.

    So let's review Chris Metzen:

    1. He thinks highly of himself, inserting himself into holidays and getting statues built of him like a god.
    2. Has a savior complex.

    Who does this remind you of? Azshara. Azshara has statues of herself everywhere, she thinks she's god's gift to her people. She is her people's savior.

    You could make a case that Azshara represents Chris Metzen's true nature. Its his true self-insert into WoW. Just not the one he intended.
    Well Chris Metzen earned the respect he deserve, and he get the rewards he deserve, plus he is not CEO or COO to apply statues and stuff in the company, say that to Mike Morhaime or someone equal in the company.

    Your opinion on Chris Metzen doesn' t matter, as it is just flat hatred as it seems, and he is beloved by everyone in the company, their reaction when he showed with the audience last Blizzcon is enough proof, esp since he is just a retried guy with 0 powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Chris Metzen renamed Rudolph the reindeer after himself so we can celebrate him every Christmas.

    Chris Metzen had a literal statue built of him that he accepted that is placed in the lobby of Blizzard Headquarters in Irvine that is not modest in ANY way and instead is modeled after Walt Disney's statue where instead of Disney holding the hand of Mickey Mouse, he is holding the hand of Winston from Overwatch.

    Metzen's self-chosen self-insert, Thrall, comes back as green Jesus again ready to save the horde and all of Azeroth from the war and from Sylvanas.

    So let's review Chris Metzen:

    1. He thinks highly of himself, inserting himself into holidays and getting statues built of him like a god.
    2. Has a savior complex.

    Who does this remind you of? Azshara. Azshara has statues of herself everywhere, she thinks she's god's gift to her people. She is her people's savior.

    You could make a case that Azshara represents Chris Metzen's true nature. Its his true self-insert into WoW. Just not the one he intended.
    Maybe unplug yourself from the internet for a while, bud.

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    Metzen didn't name the reindeer after himself, the quest designers did. He also didn't "have the statue made," it was commissioned by the Overwatch team as a retirement present.

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    So I take it you do not like Metzen......

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    Let's talk a little bit about who Chris Metzen is.

    Metzen is the guy who helped develop the core lore and story of Warcraft. not the WoW game. THE WHOLE FUCKING WARCRAFT UNIVERSE.
    Metzen literally created Azeroth. their full-time artists.. whose job it is to create the visual world.. got schooled by him, with acrylic paint and an officer wall.
    Metzen was the creative and story force behind the most popular, and one of the highest grossing, games EVER.
    Metzen was the voice of blizzcon. The master of MC's. The cult icon of the con.
    Metzen is the guy who cared so much about the success of blizzard that he put his mental health on the back-burner to make sure that the players got their money's worth!
    Metzen is the guy who even after he retired, still reaches out to the community, and interacts with them. He was out of the business.. and STILL he is a geek at heart.

    OP, you don't have the slightest clue who Metzen actually is (professionally, or personally) and you should probably get this thread deleted to limit the exposure of your ignorance, daft callousness, and total disregard for all of the things that Metzen did to bring these stories to life!

    For Shame, asshole.

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