Blizzard killed off Mythic+ on PTR

[thedoom]

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Gear drops on 10+ at the end of instance will be 420 ilvl
Weekly chest will drop 430 ilvl, which is HC raid equivalent.

Thanks to all these selfish, arrogant raiders who kept complaining to blizzard that Mythic+ dropped good gear.

This game is soo garbage now, if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

[Teaon]

i am more concerned about the fact that this affix seems to favor range.

so now we have raids that are filled with ranges, and m+ that are going to be filled with ranges.

world of rangecraft.

[Clozer]

I understand that you are sad that gravy train went off the track but getting mythic raid equivalent gear from 5 man content is pretty stupid. Dungeon or WQ rewards should never be even close to raid rewards.

Maybe blizz is finally going back to game design where effort you put in is directly proportional to reward you get.

Why cant extremly challenging content drop gear thats on par with at least hc gear?

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i am more concerned about the fact that this affix seems to favor range.

so now we have raids that are filled with ranges, and m+ that are going to be filled with ranges.

world of rangecraft.

Yes we had world of meleecraft for nearly a year now. Time to change.

[FuxieDK]

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Thanks to all these selfish, arrogant raiders who kept complaining to blizzard that Mythic+ dropped good gear.

This game is soo garbage now, if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

M+ should never have dropped any gear to begin with.
M+ should have normalized all gear, to a specific iLevel. Only then can you meassure people's skill

[RobertMugabe]

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Thanks to all these selfish, arrogant raiders who kept complaining to blizzard that Mythic+ dropped good gear.

This game is soo garbage now, if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

That's a good thing. Raids are very hard to organise, aren't repeatable and they're actually very difficult for the gear that they offer (normal bod giving 385+ gear, while I have a way harder time doing that than +10 keys for some reason... heroic seemed to be a nightmare for pugs)

And dude what fucking logic is that? You do realise that Classic has a clear progression where you level->dungeons->raids. No m+ for you there.

EDIT: just realised it's a fresh account

[Teaon]

Why cant extremly challenging content drop gear thats on par with at least hc gear?

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Yes we had world of meleecraft for nearly a year now. Time to change.

yea Uldir, BoD and CoS are clearly meleecraft

and if you are talking about m+, its roguecraft not meleecraft.

[Kralljin]

if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

Who's going to tell him what happens on classic once you're done with 5man dungeons?

Why cant extremly challenging content drop gear thats on par with at least hc gear?

I think M+ falls into the same category as 10man heroic in Cata / MoP.

It required less effort on the "logistical" side but was roughly on par with its difficulty, thus many favored 10man over 25man.
With M+ having the bonus of having literally no lockout

[Exkrementor]

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Thanks to all these selfish, arrogant raiders who kept complaining to blizzard that Mythic+ dropped good gear.

This game is soo garbage now, if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

Is this a troll?
M+ drops heroic level gear right now so where is the change?
Also being able to farm mythic level gear without lockout would kill raiding and that would kill the game because raiding is the only thing left thats good.
So you are welcome I guess?

[Osmeric]

I don't much like m+, so it will be really nice to be able to ignore it.

Of course, that's why they bumped the reward from it in the first place: people like me were ignoring it.

[Clozer]

Is this a troll?
M+ drops heroic level gear right now so where is the change?
Also being able to farm mythic level gear without lockout would kill raiding and that would kill the game because raiding is the only thing left thats good.
So you are welcome I guess?

it does not. It drops 420 ilvl. 430 ilvl is heroic palace and 415 is normal palace. So its tiny bit better than normal for a +10.

[MechaCThun]

What is the range got keystone levels going to be for gear now?

Like, +2 through +5 will be LFR equivalent?

+6 through +10 will be normal?

+11 through +15 be heroic?

Just assuming, but wanting to understand better.

[coprax]

Are we talking about the weekly chest? Because M+ has never dropped mythic gear.

If so, good change, quite ridiculous to see 415 geared players that have not killed a single Mythic Raid Boss.
Because +10 for that chest is nowhere near the difficulty of mythic raids and should not be rewarded as such.

[Clozer]

Are we talking about the weekly chest? Because M+ has never dropped mythic gear.

If so, good change, quite ridiculous to see 415 geared players that have not killed a single Mythic Raid Boss.
Because +10 for that chest is nowhere near the difficulty of mythic raids and should not be rewarded as such.

LOLOLOL, i clear the first 3 mythic bosses with pug groups who havent set foot in any mythic raid before every week and i get a shit ton of free 415 gear. Try a +10 with 5 of these plebs and you wont have a good time.

[Taeldorian]

Are you talking about the cache? Running a 10 gives you heroic level gear already so this doesn’t affect that but if you’re talking about the cache I think it’s a good change.

I think this is a good change personally. You can spam m+ all day if you want, the gear rewards should be a bit less especially from a 10. They can give out 415s for completing an 18 or something, I think that’d be fair, but completing a 10 and getting a 410 piece of loot is a bit ridiculous imo.

I think titanforging needs to go so they can actually work out what the rewards should look like from all forms of content. Right now some things are over-rewarding with rewards being given way too often. They can replace tf with a currency upgrade system which will give incentive to run m+ and do world content without having huge ilvl upgrades be RNG.

Regardless, I think it’s a good change. They can easily incentivize m+ with AP if they wanted to. Legion m+ was booming because people were grinding AP from it all expansion. The group finder was filled with people doing +5s-+15s all week long due to AP (and legendaries) so realistically if they wanted to incentivize it they certainly can. Lowering the gear rewards is a good move but they should look at the higher levels of m+ and make those a bit more rewarding as well, 20s shouldn’t give the same loot as 10s imo.

[Maudib]

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Thanks to all these selfish, arrogant raiders who kept complaining to blizzard that Mythic+ dropped good gear.

This game is soo garbage now, if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

Isn't this a good change? Gear should be tiered by content. Raid gear should be BiS and ONLY available in raids. Mythic+ is some competitive "game mode" and shouldn't even GIVE gear. It's to compete against others... so when you zone in you should get an exact set of gear to keep it level.

[Kumorii]

the content is still there tho?

[Puupi]

American Empire guy is also a raider.io tryhard kid, why am I not surprised?

[Steelcryo]

I don't know why +10 is the limit for gear. They could make it so +15 or +20 gives Mythic raid level gear in the weekly chest. That way raiders are still getting more loot if they're pushing and clearing Mythic and people pushing M+ still get a reward for pushing keys to high levels, but they'd only get 1 piece of Mythic level gear a week. So it would still take weeks of farming to get a full set of mythic raid level gear from M+ (likely months before you got one piece for each slot) at which point it'd be faster to just do the raids. That way people still have motivation to push keys, raiders still get top level gear faster and people who don't enjoy raiding still have some high skill content to aim for.

[glowpipe]

you do no longer get gear you can farm so your plan is to unsub to classic where you do not gear period ? 40 players 3 items per boss ? logic is on point

[Eldrathian]

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....if you don't run raids then there is 0 content left. It's time to unsub until Classic WoW.

Classic WoW, Where if you don't run raids there is 0 content?
lol