I disagree. You are free to disagree. I will keep my stance until I see the police in general being convicted of what you think is abuse. There are however, ex. police officers who are serving prison time as we post this. And one at least that I saw the video footage of his crime, deserves it.
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" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams
Institutions take on the moral characteristics of the people who make it up. If the institution is responsible for bad acts then the people who make up the body of the institution are held accountable.
Same if a company does bad, those who work for the company are held accountable.
Please miss all the 'it's not the institution' talk. In any other profession, education, medicine, even retail, if you know someone is doing wrong and don't act least report it you're getting in trouble too. No such as a good person who gives a bad one space to operate.The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
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Yet the law enforcement, those who should be held to the highest standards and those who we should be the most proud of, are treated like they are doing the best they can do. "Aw, he was just a little heavy handed because he was stressed out." "We can come down on cops for every infraction because they are all we have." Pathetic excuse after excuse.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017...-public-views/
Strange how the people view police vs the way police view themselves.
I find interesting that cops even debunk the argument that they are heavy handed across the board because they are afraid of guns and understaffed. According to the poll most feel safe on the job, that numbers are adequate, and fine with more people owning guns - even in favor or less restrictive laws. So whats their excuse?
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No, they actually aren't. The management is usually the entity that's held accountable. The janitor at Enron just isn't culpable.
Or when the higher-ups are the ones punishing speaking out about it, in which case they aren't getting in trouble. Even if it isn't, a doctor at one hospital is not the least responsible for another hospital's staff making a mistake of some kind.Please miss all the 'it's not the institution' talk. In any other profession, education, medicine, even retail, if you know someone is doing wrong and don't act least report it you're getting in trouble too. No such as a good person who gives a bad one space to operate.
Not sure why you said "miss all the" - why do you say "miss"? Miss it? I don't get it.
Uh, okay? This doesn't really do anything here.Yet the law enforcement, those who should be held to the highest standards and those who we should be the most proud of, are treated like they are doing the best they can do. "Aw, he was just a little heavy handed because he was stressed out." "We can come down on cops for every infraction because they are all we have." Pathetic excuse after excuse.
Media portrayal interaction with race can do that. Although it's interesting black people were less likely to see the police as solely enforcers, and the 5% difference for them seeing them as protectors really isn't much to write home about. This wasn't the pew article to bring up.https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017...-public-views/
Strange how the people view police vs the way police view themselves.
When protests break out again and again over murderous thugs being killed, it's not really showing us their greater anger against the police is warranted.
I would think those officers who are actually doing the job of enforcing the laws out in the streets, know more about what is needed than the public in general do. Having more officers would certainly make their jobs primarily safer.
I would not argue against better training however. And the police's job is not to protect the public, but to enforce the laws which can help protect the public. This was made clear by the Supreme Court's decision which stated the police are not legally required to protect the public. Their job is to enforce the laws.
" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams
Yes when racist black people and racist white people supporting racist black people make them have this need to be stressed out to where they are made to feel they can't even pull a black person over without cries of racism. "MAN THAT RACIST COP PULLED ME OVER AND GAVE ME A WARNING FOR A TAILLIGHT BEING OUT!"
You can blame the racist black community for the current state of cops.
I wish I was at my desk so I could properly quote stuff.
When you're at work and see someone doing something they aren't supposed to be doing, you better have a good reason for not reporting them.
If you're a doctor at a hospital and know that another doctor is abusing their patients, that's your ass too if you don't report them and the powers that be find out you knew about it.
Hell if your a teacher you held accountable for reporting on stuff you think is happening while your student is at home. We say, 'wtf was the rest of the hospital/school while X was going on?'
Bad cop at a PD? Oh just one bad egg, nothing see here.
Also you can just blame those poll on the media. We have to stop using the media as a scapegoat.
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I love where this country is going, whether or not it's justified you can't touch people of a certain color without a riot.
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no, you keep the strawman. i have a feeling you'll need it later anyway.
you're just another yokel trying to equate being "black and committing a violent crime" with "not being perfect" even though nobody said anything about "kill everyone who breaks any law"
stay on topic
I believe it is something akin to a death spiral. The community is extremely impoverished and is turning to crime to cope. The police are then seen as a ever larger threat as they attempt to wrestle back control from the gangs that provide a vital revenue stream to the community.
The sicker the community gets the faster this spiral occurs. The only way to fix it is to nearly overload the area with a massive police presence till the community can expunge its criminal element for those obeying the law.
Damn imagine the amount of riots Raylan Givens would have caused in this age.