“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
He is a weirdo but he is also inarguably one of the most influential black metal musicians in the world. The real problem with banning him is that he purposefully kept his more radical racist views off of Youtube. He's a very quirky character and interesting to listen to. I'm also not rallying behind him because he believes in a lot of things I don't like. He's a white supremacist, an environmentalist, a pacifist, an anti-Christian, and an anti-capitalist.
That is why he's interesting because his views are pretty unique and he's had a really weird life. Youtube should ban extremists only if they are being extreme on that platform but most of his videos are just him talking about why you shouldn't do drugs and why you should live in the woods and hunt for your own food and shit like that. He's sort of like Ted Kaczynski mixed with Ed Norton's character in American History X.
Varg also stabbed his neo-Nazi band mate in the face so he's officially killed more Nazis than all of Antifa combined.
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[QUOTE=niztheundead87;51319743]he was talking about the law in general not just canada, such a law is absurd any way you see it[/QUOTE
No he cited c16 many many times, just like him you are lying about something that is easily checked.
This is true, but that in no way means that he should have a platform for his extremist or hateful views.
Oh, so his videos that broke their rules are fine because he had even worse videos elsewhere? This is a bad argument.
Quirky...no. Not by any definition. Interesting? Absolutely, the guy is fascinating. Terrifying, but fascinating.
That alone seems like a pretty good reason for YouTube to remove him from their platform, and I'm not sure why you'd be upset about this.
He broke their rules that he voluntarily agreed to follow. That has consequences, even if you're famous.
Cool, I guess good for him? Not sure what relevance this has to anything in the discussion. He wasn't censored, he suffered the consequences of breaking site rules that he agreed to. Had he followed the rules he'd still be there.
There are people asking for all kinds of absurd shit to be made into law.
And?
Does it matter? Is it going anywhere? Or is this just people on the internet talking with nothing coming from it.
No, "in the first hand" he was dishonestly lying about the bill and what it did. He made a big to-do about "compelled speech" and how it leads to authoritarianism from the left, despite there being literally no compelled speech, which makes his entire "argument" little more than a dishonest smear.
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It's not illegal in New York, that too is a lie. Where else do you think it's apparently illegal? Because right now you're 2 for 2 on being wrong and buying into bullshit, easily disproven lies from idiots like Peterson.
The only time it would be illegal was if the store owner repeatedly, intentionally, maliciously refused to use the persons correct gender pronoun, not for accidentally using the wrong one. And at that point that's damn reasonable and in-line with other laws regarding hate speech against protected classes.
part of ny yuman rights law:
Examples of Violations
a. Intentional or repeated refusal to use a person’s name, pronouns, or title. For example, repeatedly calling a transgender woman “him” or “Mr.” after she has made clear that she uses she/her and Ms.
Under the NYCHRL, employers and covered entities (in the areas of employment, public accommodations and housing) are required to use the name, pronouns and title (e.g. Ms./Mrs./Mr./Mx.) with which a person self-identifies, regardless of that person's sex assigned at birth or the sex indicated on that person's identification, or that person's anatomical makeup, gender, appearance or otherwise. Failing to use pronouns with which a person self-identifies can constitute as discrimination under the law.
should i go around and ask everyone their pronoun before i talk to them so they dont sue me or what
He didn't break any rules though, unless there's a rule that you can't sit in your car and talk about why masturbation is bad which was like 99% of his videos. He's a European identitarian and a convicted church burner but he was careful to never endorse those views on Youtube, honestly probably out of guilt for his past actions and the realization that a lot of young people watch his videos and he didn't want to set a bad example.
He actually specifically endorsed non-violence in several videos. They didn't even tell him why they banned him and he apparently still doesn't know why. The reason is, of course, that someone at Youtube looked him up and panicked without analyzing his channel and he ended up being caught in the middle of a ban wave that was meant to target people who actually do endorse extremist violence.
Yes, which I specified. This is no different than other laws regarding hate-speech, and it's one of the easiest things ever for folks to not get in trouble for.
"Excuse me miss, can I help you?"
"Yes, and I'm actually a he if you don't mind."
"Oh, sorry about that sir! What can I help you with today?"
Oh the fucking horror.
No, because that's not what the law says at all. The law is very forgiving when it comes to simple mistakes like that. It's teeth only come into play if people decide they want to be assholes about it and refuse to use folks prefered gender pronouns after being corrected.
You continue to dishonestly pearl-clutch over literally nothing.