Here I was thinking using facist symbols means you support their ideology, that's not very progressive of you. It's funny that you call her a race traitor though, because it shows how you view 'black people', or at least african-americans. 'Black people' are a monolith are they, with a specific set of shared beliefs and values, a singular culture and way of interacting with the world right? You know that the white nationalists you despise look at 'black people' the same way right? Same identity politics, same erasure of the individual, different conclusions. They see them as victimizers, I bet you see them as perpetual victims.
How would you know what is better for the 'black community' than Owens? Are you an african-american, do you have lived experience? Or do you just have a series of proconceived notions build on partisan talking points that prevent you from seeing that people can have different opinions and not be evil and actively doing harm? Can you even tell the difference between conservative ideology and ethno-nationalist facism? I doubt it since you think libertarians can be facists at the same time.
How do they do harm really, specifically, not these vagueries llike 'actively harming' and 'legitimizing'. That doesn't mean anything, you're not saying anthing. You're just saying that they are bad because they do bad. Why bad, because what they say I know is bad.
Guess what, there is no such thing as a 'black identity' or a 'jewish identity'. There are just individuals that we might group by a charactaristic they share, an arbitrary charactaristic that tells you nothing about the things about them that actually matter. Like their beliefs, their politics, their class or upbringing. Just bacause a lot of african americans vote democrat and a lot of jews are left wing, doesn't make people like Owens and Shapiro grifters and scammers because they don't fit that mold.
Truely? Is that how history goes? I can't seem to remember ethnic cleansing of large portions of society that gave facist governments broad support. Surely with so much facist support those places are only liberal democracies these days because it was beaten out of them right? It's really that simple, that's really how you change peoples minds. You beat it out of them.Historically speaking the only cure to fascism has seemingly been political violence. There are some ideologies out there that simply cannot be reasoned with.
Oh you must support American intervention in Iran then yeah?Theocracy
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Originally Posted by SwizzleOriginally Posted by StarbuyPWNDyou
We both know you will frame people as fascists and nazis who politically disagree with you. Like a bully you will assault and "punch a nazi", but then when you eventually get your just deserts you will pathetically cry wolf while being surrounded by leftist media headlights and framed as the victim.
You throwing a punch is still highly hypothetical and even highly more so if the odds dont stack in your favor.
Ya show those socialist what for. You should really show them socialist up by never using any socialist type programs as well. Like you should never call the Police or the Fire Department stupid community tax collected by and paid for through the government socialist programs. Oh you should also never drive on a paved road again because SOCIALISM PAID FOR IT DUH DUH DUH!!!!!!!!
While the amount seems rather excessive I can't really argue with the verdict.
Originally Posted by SwizzleOriginally Posted by StarbuyPWNDyou
My grandfather fought actual Nazis. You people think wasting a drink on a political opponent is the same thing. This is embarrassing.
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Agree, for the far right i understand they come from nazis, but the far left to do the same thing now is insane. The left should be about making everyones life better and more equal but instead they have racist and feminist nonsens, a rich black woman is more oppressed then a poor white man... really so much nonsens.
A poor person always have more in common with a poor person then a rich person of same color or gender. When the left abandoned the class struggle for the race or gender struggle they left the left.
the "far left" as portrayed around here's pretty much a myth and doesn't even come close in extremes compared to the far right though.
if you think the killing everyone who disagrees with you is comparable to vandalism(which is the reality of the situation) then you are a moron.. really.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
Nothing. It isn't like they knowingly lied about the story. If they received the video the same day as the story, and the Washington Post, CNN, and New York Times ignored it, you might have a case, but it came out about 3 days later.
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Nothing I said was false there. But you continue being ignorant.
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Well, considering there is no "far left", you might have an argument if there was though.
There are no communists, at least communists of any number in the USA. And the fact that you think there are more communists than Nazis screams to me that you think anyone with a Capital D next to their name, like other posters here, think that they are communist as well. Hell people called Obama Communist for giving the biggest capitalistic expansion to healthcare ever.
Even white nationalists and alt-right are a tiny tiny number, fewer then leftwingers calling themself communists. The far right is so tiny its silly, its like a scary ghost you tell children its not true they arent real. The people that claim to only being socialists they are growing in numbers, but they sound alot like communists to me with the twist instead of class its race and gender