Mega-Thread: Democratic 2020 Primaries

[Blur4stuff]

They say shit like this and then freak out when people point out that's exactly the sort of mindset Trump voters are known for.

- Insisting their leader is the only one who can fix the country's ills.
- Gaslighting people who have negative experiences with his supporters.
- Getting upset at negative media attention.
- Getting upset at insufficiently positive media attention.
- Conflating loyalty to their candidate with ideological purity.
- Their candidate turning a blind eye to his supporters' behavior when it benefits them.
- Insisting all mainstream media is out to get their candidate.
- Actively circulating conspiracy theories to undermine the legitimacy of opponents.

Who are you referring to specifically?

I think you're taking what some online trolls are doing and applying that to millions of people you don't know and haven't spoken to.

[Lenonis]

They say shit like this and then freak out when people point out that's exactly the sort of mindset Trump voters are known for.

the horseshoe theory at work.

[Elegiac]

Who are you referring to specifically?

And here we go with the gaslighting. Yet again.

Christ and Allah.

[Orange Joe]

And here we go with the gaslighting. Yet again.

Christ and Allah.

Asking a question is gas lighting? lmfao..........

[Elegiac]

the horseshoe theory at work.

I used to think horseshoe theory was alt-right nonsense designed to legitimize themselves.

Then I remembered that brocialists are actually a thing outside of the internet.

[Trandwithd]

- Actively circulating conspiracy theories to undermine the legitimacy of opponents.

Which candidate isn't very publicly funded and supported by corporations? Oh yes, Bernie.

Huge conspiracy there. A statement of the f***ing obvious.

[Elegiac]

Asking a question is gas lighting? lmfao..........

Yep.

Trumpkins do the same shit whenever you criticise him or his supporters.

- "Who are you referring to?"
- "Lol that's only on Twitter."
- "Well they're just a vocal minority."

It's the very definition of gaslighting, and I'm really not interested in playing that game with folks on the left. You are more than capable of reading the many threads on this forum and doing some research as to why there is a narrative of the Whackobins being toxic assholes more generally.

[Lenonis]

I used to think horseshoe theory was alt-right nonsense designed to legitimize themselves.

Then I remembered that brocialists are actually a thing outside of the internet.

I don't actually give the theory much credit in general application but the extreme camps of the Trump and Bernie supporters act frighteningly similar. Fortunately it is a minority of Bernie's base but my goodness are they a loud bunch.

It is interesting the absolutely unwillingness of even his more moderate supporters to acknowledge even the slightest criticism. Such as his jumping on the Dem party just to run for president is opportunistic. That's not even a really harsh criticism and some might even see it as a positive...but they still get super defensive about it.

[Trandwithd]

Then I remembered that brocialists are actually a thing outside of the internet.

Been watching CNN again, have we?

[Blur4stuff]

So you admit you don't actually know anyone like this. Just crazy shit you see on social media.

For anyone here tossing around nasty attacks on Bernie supporters, what is your basis for this? Who are you thinking about when you post these things?

[Elegiac]

I don't actually give the theory much credit in general application but the extreme camps of the Trump and Bernie supporters act frighteningly similar. Fortunately it is a minority of Bernie's base but my goodness are they a loud bunch.

It is interesting the absolutely unwillingness of even his more moderate supporters to acknowledge even the slightest criticism. Such as his jumping on the Dem party just to run for president is opportunistic. That's not even a really harsh criticism and some might even see it as a positive...but they still get super defensive about it.

It's a cult. What do you expect.

[Orange Joe]

So you admit you don't actually know anyone like this. Just crazy shit you see on social media.

Pretty much. It's so bad and everyone is doing it. but somehow no one is doing it at the same time.

[Trandwithd]

I don't actually give the theory much credit in general application but the extreme camps of the Trump and Bernie supporters act frighteningly similar. Fortunately it is a minority of Bernie's base but my goodness are they a loud bunch.

Provide exact quotation of anything and it looks ridiculous next to a choice selection of Trump supporter chants.

You won't provide any because you know this. You are full of shit. Now go away.

[Lenonis]

So you admit you don't actually know anyone like this. Just crazy shit you see on social media.

For anyone here tossing around nasty attacks on Bernie supporters, what is your basis for this? Who are you thinking about when you post these things?

This was answered earlier in this thread with many real life examples of the same behavior seen online.

Also, AGAIN, the poll that half of his supporters wouldn't say yes to a question if they would support another candidate if Bernie lost the nomination. Bernie himself has had to come out and correct, apologize, and tell people to knock it off.

If you honestly think there is no problem in Bernie's base you are being willfully blind.

[Elegiac]

So you admit you don't actually know anyone like this. Just crazy shit you see on social media.

Fairly sure I've mentioned multiple times that I was a delegate in 2016 and have been volunteering in the political circuit this election cycle.

If it were just Twitter I literally would not give a shit. But these aren't K-Pop stans we're talking about.

[Edge-]

Calling bernie supporters brown shirts and ranting about being executed are irrational meltdowns.

I agree, Chuck Todd is a fucking idiot.

But Chris Matthews wasn't talking about Sanders when he was discussing executions. He was clearly talking about ye-olden days of the red scare, not modern times.

[Lenonis]

Provide exact quotation of anything and it looks ridiculous next to a choice selection of Trump supporter chants.

You won't provide any because you know this. You are full of shit. Now go away.

Sorry I don't answer burner accounts.

[Trandwithd]

It's a cult. What do you expect.

The next sentence should contain a link to or other substantiation of the exact thing you are accusing Sanders supporters of. No more vague over-simplified bullshit of something which didn't happen.

Or alternatively you can be quiet now as a tacit admission you are making shit up.

[Elegiac]

I agree, Chuck Todd is a fucking idiot.

But Chris Matthews wasn't talking about Sanders when he was discussing executions. He was clearly talking about ye-olden days of the red scare, not modern times.

Oh...yeah.

Chuck Todd is an actual human that exists.

Why did you remind me, @Edge? Why.

[Elegiac]

The next sentence should contain a link to or other substantiation of the exact thing you are accusing Sanders supporters of. No more vague over-simplified bullshit of something which didn't happen.

Or alternatively you can be quiet now as a tacit admission you are making shit up.

Ok burner.