Mega-Thread: Democratic 2020 Primaries

[cubby]

i wrote "research a topic" and you read "research my opinion"? Is English your first language?

It's adorable that you don't see the link there - and hysterical that you think the mistake is on my end.

Again - we're here to help when you're ready. Just ask!

[Beazy]

I'm really not sure why people are freaking the fuck out when the polls in California are still open for another two and a half hours. Christ and Allah.

Biden has 7 states now.

The progressive movement in America dies tonight.

[Thepersona]

Internet loves to doompost.
I only love doom metal.

I prefer hard rock tbh. And power metal



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Biden has 7 states now.

The progressive movement in America dies tonight.

Dude, Bernie is crushing Biden in TX. and is projected to win CAL. Don't lose your shit yet

[Edge-]

I'm really not sure why people are freaking the fuck out when the polls in California are still open for another two and a half hours. Christ and Allah.

The story of politics since...oh, around 2015 (or around 2007 if you're a Republican). Everything is worth totally losing your shit over. Everything.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

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Dude, Bernie is crushing Biden in TX. and is projected to win CAL. Don't lose your shit yet

biden is ahead in texas by .6%

[Rukh]

Ya'll need to calm down, almost all these states are still in the single digits.

[Elegiac]

Biden has 7 states now.

The progressive movement in America dies tonight.

*facepalm*

1) Delegates are not awarded on a winner take all system and Biden crushing it tonight just means a brokered convention.
2) Biden is leading in the following states thus far:

- Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, North Carolina, Tennessee, Oklahoma (Red States)
- Maine and Massachusetts with barely any districts reporting.

3) Texas and California have yet to come in both of which are very delegate heavy and are currently polling heavily for Sanders.

Y'all are determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it seems. Calm thine tits, for the love of the theotokos.

[Edge-]

Dude, Bernie is crushing Biden in TX. and is projected to win CAL. Don't lose your shit yet

According to whom?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-election.html

Shows Biden with a slight edge in TX with 9% reporting, and no CA numbers at all.

Is this like, the first Super Tuesday for some folks? Because like, holy shit slow your damn rolls.

[Thepersona]

biden is ahead in texas by .6%

With polls in the single digits.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

*facepalm*

1) Delegates are not awarded on a winner take all system and Biden crushing it tonight just means a brokered convention.
2) Biden is leading in the following states thus far:

- Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, North Carolina, Tennessee, Oklahoma (Red States)
- Maine and Massachusetts with barely any districts reporting.

3) Texas and California have yet to come in both of which are very delegate heavy and are currently polling heavily for Sanders.

Y'all are determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it seems. Calm thine tits, for the love of the theotokos.

Virginia is not a red state

[Elegiac]

Virginia is not a red state

It's full of the sort of Democrats y'all have taken to insinuating are secret Republicans lately.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Welp, maybe Bernie shouldn't have endorsed Castro.

That ship is sunk.

[Not A Cat]

Yikes, what do people see in Biden? The guy always talks like he's barely there. People are scared of democratic socialism that much that they'd rather have a man with dementia?

Well... I'm voting blue regardless (even though I'm in Massachusetts so not like it matters anyway), but I'm disappointed. Biden was the one candidate I didn't want, I honestly would have preferred Bloomberg.

Although to be fair, I don't have much faith that any candidate could beat the Trump cult

[Rukh]

It's full of the sort of Democrats y'all have taken to insinuating are secret Republicans lately.

If one thing good comes from this maybe some people will realize their echo chambers aren't at all representative of the democratic party and even less representative of the US as a whole, and maybe take some time to venture out in to other social circles to see what people actually think and how they rationalize their opinions. That would be swell.

[Elegiac]

Welp, maybe Bernie shouldn't have endorsed Castro.

That ship is sunk.

Sure, Jan.

Florida isn't a super Tuesday state.

[JohnBrown1917]

Welp, maybe Bernie shouldn't have endorsed Castro.

That ship is sunk.

He never did, he just repeated Obama's words on him. Man, i'd love to imagine the salt if Bernie did become president and lifted the sanctions on Cuba(...which still exist because?)

[Thepersona]

Welp, maybe Bernie shouldn't have endorsed Castro.

That ship is sunk.

Why the fuck you say he did that?

[Somewhatconcerned]

Biden has 7 states now.

The progressive movement in America dies tonight.

A full throated rebuke of "the only way to beat Trump is to go far left."

Turns out those policies maybe just weren't as popular as some had hoped?

[eschatological]

2018 there was no one on top of the ticket to depress the vote ala Hillary or Obama, it was simply a vote against Trump. If moderates could win the day why didn't they win in 6 years? that goes counter to reality the DNC was putting up moderates in 2010,2012, 2014 and the elections in between they all failed.

That is a legacy of Obama. He practically de-funded the DNC in his 8 years in office. The DNC party heads were screaming about it for years, the ones who were just complete Obama lackeys. Like Edge mentioned, Obama and his people thought they could skate by on "Hope and Change" but in reality midterms and re-election down ballot races require boots on the ground and a solid party machine.

You can read about it here: https://theintercept.com/2017/11/03/...-barack-obama/

Of course, those new to Democratic politics might not know this. They may think it's the fault of moderatism in general. But the reality is you need to have your shit organized and funded all the time. And Dems have a harder time of it, in large part because of this Obama de-funding, but also because we have a bigger tent, we have more politically disaffected/disinterested people under that tent, and it's hard to keep people in lockstep like Republicans do (nor do I think we really, ideologically, want to do that necessarily).

Over and over, I keep saying, despite being a progressive for a long ass time, I can acknowledge that moderate Dems are the solid majority of the Democratic base. Progressivism has made massive gains in the past 10 years......but that's it. You couldn't even fathom someone with Bernie's positions in a national position a decade ago.

Also, posting Gen Z preferences are dumb. I was in that 18-22 group in 2000. All my friends (who were all super liberal student activists like me) voted for Ralph Nader. I voted for Gore. Imagine how different the world would be right now if Al Gore had been President on 9/11. Kids can't think in a big picture, and that goes especially true for politics.

[cubby]

Biden has 7 states now.

The progressive movement in America dies tonight.

Momentum sure seems to be swinging towards Biden. California will be a big factor though.