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    A US-born citizen picked up by the Border Patrol has been detained for three weeks

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...ed-three-weeks

    An 18-year-old Dallas-born U.S. citizen has been in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement for more than three weeks, his attorney says.

    Now his family fears he may be deported.

    Francisco Erwin Galicia was detained at a CBP checkpoint in Falfurrias on June 27, said Claudia Galan, his attorney.

    Galicia was traveling with his 17-year-old brother Marlon Galicia and a group of friends from Edinburg where they live to Ranger College in North Texas for a soccer scouting event when they came upon a CBP checkpoint, said Sanjuana Galicia, his mother.

    It was about 8 p.m. Marlon, who was born in Mexico and lacked legal status, had only been through a border checkpoint on school trips and had never been pressed to provide travel documents.

    But this time was different, Marlon said. He had only a school ID. His brother was carrying only his Texas ID, which can only be obtained with a Social Security number.

    “We were confident that we’d be able to pass. We were going to do something good for our futures,” he said. “I didn’t imagine this could happen and now I’m so sad that I’m not with my family,” Marlon said by phone from Reynosa, Mexico, where he is staying with his grandmother.

    After two days in detention, Marlon signed a voluntary deportation form.

    “I signed because I wanted to talk with my mom. Now, we just have to wait and see and hope that they release my brother,” Marlon said.

    Francisco Galicia told his mother, who lives in Edinburg, that he was detained because he didn’t have his U.S. passport. But she said he did present CBP with his Texas ID.
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    Galicia wasn’t allowed to use the phone for the three weeks he was in CBP custody, Sanjuana said. But he has been able to make collect calls to his mother since since Saturday, when Galicia was transferred to ICE’s custody.

    Galan said she met with CBP officers last week and presented them with Galicia’s birth certificate and some other documents but was unsuccessful in getting him released. She plans on presenting the same documents to ICE officers later this week.

    “I presented then with his original birth certificate and other documents and they ignored them. So now I’ve faxed over all the documents to the ICE agent handling the case,” Galan said. “He’s going on a full month of being wrongfully detained. He’s a U.S. citizen and he needs to be released now.”


    The Dallas Morning News reviewed a copy of the birth certificate and it lists Galicia as having been born at Parkland Memorial Hospital on December 24, 2000. Other documents include a congratulatory certificate his mother was given by hospital staff when he was born, a high school ID, and a health insurance card.

    Galan said that the confusion from CBP may stem from the fact that Sanjuana solicited a visitors visa for Francisco when he was a minor and falsely claimed that he was born in Mexico.

    CBP ran Francisco's fingerprints after he was detained, despite carrying a Texas ID, Social Security number and a copy of his birth certificate, and found that the visa had been issued for him years prior.

    Galan said Sanjuana feared it was the only way she could get him back into the U.S. because she was unable to get Francisco a U.S. passport due to her lack of legal status.

    But Galan says the mixup is no excuse to have held Francisco for more than three weeks and that this issue should have already been cleared up.

    "His mom is desperate to get him back. The main focus right now is to get him released from custody and back with his family so this whole ordeal can be over," Galan said.

    Neither ICE nor CBP responded to requests for comment.
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    The ICE detainee locator system shows Francisco is being held at the South Texas Detention Facility in Pearsall and lists him as being born in Mexico.

    Sanjuana Galicia, Francisco’s mother, said she lived in Dallas from 1998-2001 and moved to South Texas after his birth.

    “I need my son back,” she said. “I just want to prove to them that he is a citizen. He’s not a criminal or anything bad. He’s a good kid.”

    Can we call them concentration camps now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
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    Can we call them concentration camps now?
    Idk about calling them concentration camps, but he definitely has a solid case for suing the government.
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    Not the first time a US Citizen has gotten picked up and detained and it surely won't be the last.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/u...ro-medina.html
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    If you aren’t white, better carry around your papers. Sorry, our officials and sycophants care more about being called racist, than people born in US, being “sent back”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fincayra View Post
    Idk about calling them concentration camps, but he definitely has a solid case for suing the government.
    That’s doesn’t seem fair... Trump didn’t win the popular vote and this is the result of his executive order. We are already running a trillion dollar deficit and Trump is a billionaire... can he be just sued, so the tax payer doesn’t have to pay for Trump’s solo actions. That seems more fair...
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    So his mother admits to lying on his birth certificate (providing a false name), presumably to protect her own identity given she was in the country illegally when he was born... And admits to getting her son a tourist visa rather than a passport (to travel to and from Mexico) and lying on it, claiming that her son was born in Mexico, not the US; because she lied on the birth certificate... IE: Her lies have resulted in his official documents being filled with false information and claims that he was born in both the US and in Mexico...

    And she is confused as to why they would question the validity of these documents and assume they were fraudulent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    So his mother admits to lying on his birth certificate (providing a false name), presumably to protect her own identity given she was in the country illegally when he was born... And admits to getting her son a tourist visa rather than a passport (to travel to and from Mexico) and lying on it, claiming that her son was born in Mexico, not the US; because she lied on the birth certificate... IE: Her lies have resulted in his official documents being filled with false information and claims that he was born in both the US and in Mexico...

    And she is confused as to why they would question the validity of these documents and assume they were fraudulent?
    While it sucks for the kid, its pretty easy to understand how this happened. But, you are not supposed to point this out. You need to jump on "RAWR CONCENTRATION CAMPS and DISBAND ICE".
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    So his mother admits to lying on his birth certificate (providing a false name), presumably to protect her own identity given she was in the country illegally when he was born... And admits to getting her son a tourist visa rather than a passport (to travel to and from Mexico) and lying on it, claiming that her son was born in Mexico, not the US; because she lied on the birth certificate... IE: Her lies have resulted in his official documents being filled with false information and claims that he was born in both the US and in Mexico...

    And she is confused as to why they would question the validity of these documents and assume they were fraudulent?
    If only there was some sort of certificate people got at birth to tell us where they are born, alas such a wondrous thing was not meant to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    So his mother admits to lying on his birth certificate (providing a false name), presumably to protect her own identity given she was in the country illegally when he was born... And admits to getting her son a tourist visa rather than a passport (to travel to and from Mexico) and lying on it, claiming that her son was born in Mexico, not the US; because she lied on the birth certificate... IE: Her lies have resulted in his official documents being filled with false information and claims that he was born in both the US and in Mexico...

    And she is confused as to why they would question the validity of these documents and assume they were fraudulent?
    This could have been sorted quickly if they hand't denied him access to a phone to call legal representation or his family for 3 weeks. His mother provided them with original version of his documents, which should be more than sufficient to explain away confusion stemming from her mistaken attempts to get a visitors visa for him.

    What false name did she provide on his birth certificate? The article doesn't say anything about that.

    The only "official" document with false information was the tourist visa, which the government can go after her for if they want. But her son had no part of any of this and should not have been punished for this, especially considering he is a US citizen and did have original documentation to prove that, which was shown to officials who summarily ignored it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    If only there was some sort of certificate people got at birth to tell us where they are born, alas such a wondrous thing was not meant to be.
    Guess you missed the part where his birth certificate is filled with false information that his mother openly admits to lying about which led them to question the validity of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    This could have been sorted quickly if they hand't denied him access to a phone to call legal representation or his family for 3 weeks. His mother provided them with original version of his documents, which should be more than sufficient to explain away confusion stemming from her mistaken attempts to get a visitors visa for him.

    What false name did she provide on his birth certificate? The article doesn't say anything about that.

    The only "official" document with false information was the tourist visa, which the government can go after her for if they want. But her son had no part of any of this and should not have been punished for this, especially considering he is a US citizen and did have original documentation to prove that, which was shown to officials who summarily ignored it.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.12bc4c365b34

    Quote Originally Posted by Washington Post
    The reason it appears to have taken CBP and ICE so long to determine Galicia’s citizenship is because his mother, who is not a citizen, took out a U.S. tourist visa in his name while he was still a minor, falsely saying he was born in Mexico, Galan said. His mother, Sanjuana, told The Post that CBP discovered the visa after fingerprinting her son. The conflicting documents only fueled the agency’s suspicion that Galicia’s U.S. documents were fake, Galan said.

    Sanjuana said she took out the tourist visa for her son because she saw it as the only way he could travel back and forth across the border to visit family. The undocumented mother was unable to get him a U.S. passport because when Galicia was born, Galan said, she gave a different name for herself on his birth certificate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Guess you missed the part where his birth certificate is filled with false information that his mother openly admits to lying about which led them to question the validity of it.
    so your saying the hospital staff didn't give them any sort of documents? theres no record he exist the mom just made it all up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Guess you missed the part where his birth certificate is filled with false information that his mother openly admits to lying about which led them to question the validity of it.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.12bc4c365b34
    Yes, that's all documentation related to the tourist visa. None of his information was incorrect on his birth certificate, only his mothers name.

    Again, all of his documents are original and check out. This could have all been cleared up quickly had CBP not denied Francisco access to a telephone for 3 weeks. He's a god-damned US citizen, there is no excuse for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Guess you missed the part where his birth certificate is filled with false information that his mother openly admits to lying about which led them to question the validity of it.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.12bc4c365b34
    Wow you seriously claimed she lied on the birth certificate and then provided evidence that she lied about his location of birth when applying for the visa. If you're going to attack people at least don't lie about it.

    The woman provided the actual birth certificate as well as the congratulatory certificate that the hospital provided when Galicia was born. CBP decided to ignore all that and simply follow the visa that was lied about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    so your saying the hospital staff didn't give them any sort of documents? theres no record he exist the mom just made it all up?
    No, I am saying that having multiple documents with both false and conflicting information led them to assume those documents were fraudulent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    No, I am saying that having multiple documents with both false and conflicting information led them to assume those documents were fraudulent.
    Then it would be a good idea to allow him the chance to show otherwise.

    Or toss him in a hole cause brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    No, I am saying that having multiple documents with both false and conflicting information led them to assume those documents were fraudulent.
    so again there must be no record of his birth right? its not like you could i don't know look at the birth certificate you know the thing people are given at birth to tell you where they are born and see hes a citizen. having other documents with false info means the birth certificate ceases to exist right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    No, I am saying that having multiple documents with both false and conflicting information led them to assume those documents were fraudulent.
    Remember - those documents weren't presented for weeks as Francisco was denied access to a phone.

    And there were only 2 conflicts -

    the tourist visa - which can be pretty quickly cleared up given the fact that he's obviously a US citizen
    his mothers name on the birth certificate - that in no way undermines the fact that he was legally born in the US and is a legal US citizen, complete with additional paperwork from the hospital confirming his birth there.

    Detaining US citizens in immigration detention for weeks on end should never be acceptable. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Wow you seriously claimed she lied on the birth certificate and then provided evidence that she lied about his location of birth when applying for the visa. If you're going to attack people at least don't lie about it.

    The woman provided the actual birth certificate as well as the congratulatory certificate that the hospital provided when Galicia was born. CBP decided to ignore all that and simply follow the visa that was lied about.
    Where did I lie? She provided a false name on his birth certificate, she admits that. She lied on his visa, claiming he was born in Mexico, she admits that?

    I never claimed he had no birth certificate, I claimed they questioned the validity of it since they have multiple conflicting documents filled with false information with regard to the son's citizenship.

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    Always remember: this has nothing to do with jobs, immigration, or any of it.

    It’s about angry sexless middle aged white people not wanting white women fucked by non white men.

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    So the mother gets her name wrong and that justifies holding a different US citizen in a concentration camp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Where did I lie? She provided a false name on his birth certificate, she admits that. She lied on his visa, claiming he was born in Mexico, she admits that?
    Neither have the slightest bearing on his citizenship status.

    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    I never claimed he had no birth certificate, I claimed they questioned the validity of it since they have multiple conflicting documents filled with false information with regard to the son's citizenship.
    None of that information calls into question his citizenship.

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