9.0 General Discussion

[jzhbee]

It's not a meme, has been confirmed by 4 big youtubers/streamers already.
Heres proof:

http://i.imgur.com/t72MgQn.jpg

I love this stupid meme.

[Edward Wu]

The rumblings have stopped...

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Or the much more likely fact is the playerbase for WoW is so huge you're very unlikely to get unanimous opinions.

Some players like the lfr/norm/hero/myth difficulties existing. Some don't.

Some players like no tf/wf. Some do.

Some players would like everything account wide. Some don't.

Some players hate every single thing wow devs do. Some love every single thing wow devs do. And then all the players in between those extremes.

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It's tough for them.

But I think what they should start doing is sectioning their feedback more. Not like "entirely PvE and entirely PvP" but "what do raiders find good/bad", "what do m+ers find good/bad", "what do altoholics find good/bad", "what do rated bg players find good/bad", "what do rated arena players find good/bad". etc etc.

And not just lump audiences by a wide net. That's how they're always going to have conflicting opinions.

It's kind of like the topics of Allied Races and how to unlock them. They're never going to appease everyone that engages with the Allied Race system. So they should figure out what they want it to be like and see how that feels for the players that do engage in it vs the players who don't.

Depends WHERE they get their feedback since they seem to follow several places.

[Revamp Man]

They must be really behind for it to take them over 3 weeks to get alpha up and running from the time they started.

For all we know

The game is 100% on track

[Edward Wu]

For all we know

The game is 100% on track

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Warcraft 3: Reforged and the crappy BfA testing period have influenced this behavior regarding the alpha. It will stay encrypted and inaccessible for longer than normal to ensure that the public's first impression is of a product that's as polished as possible. They cut into their marketing a tiny amount in order to ensure the ship is as sail-worthy as possible before testing even starts.

[Defend]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...934&height=468

Antorus missed the Scaling memo

[Chickat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...934&height=468

Antorus missed the Scaling memo

Huh? Confused.

[Throwme]

Huh? Confused.

All the other Legion raids might be scaled down to level 35 with SL, but Antorus is, for now, still listed as 110.

[Defend]

Huh? Confused.

seems Armory is updating for Shadowlands, every Legion raid besides Antorus is set to level 35

[FlemmMinis]

This just looks wrong

Besides the german text I mean.

[Valysar]

This is new ?

[maxje98]

All the other Legion raids might be scaled down to level 35 with SL, but Antorus is, for now, still listed as 110.

For me, not all the raids have it. Only BT, Ulduar, Firelands and the Legion ones (excluding Antorus).

[FlubberPuddy]

Depends WHERE they get their feedback since they seem to follow several places.

They should definitely be getting feedback from multiple places, along with their own measurement tools.

But honestly the thing is it's very hard to get good qualitative feedback, which is better imo than quantitative feedback, when it comes to things like "what makes people not enjoy this system/progression" or "is there data that supports/backs up what we often see on forums/fansites."

Anyways, it's stupidly complex (but that's just the reality of the world). Reason I say more qualitative feedback is required though is because it feels like (and other more well-respected figures within the community have said it too) they've been doing a lot of quantitative feedback (merely looking at numbers - "how can we improve more people doing this"/"how can we lessen people doing this") in order to solve 'developer issues' at the expense of player experience.

[Chickat]

seems Armory is updating for Shadowlands, every Legion raid besides Antorus is set to level 35

Oh shit didn't realize. At least things are moving along.

[Revamp Man]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Warcraft 3: Reforged and the crappy BfA testing period have influenced this behavior regarding the alpha. It will stay encrypted and inaccessible for longer than normal to ensure that the public's first impression is of a product that's as polished as possible. They cut into their marketing a tiny amount in order to ensure the ship is as sail-worthy as possible before testing even starts.

Possibly and possibly not

[Nagawithlegs]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Warcraft 3: Reforged and the crappy BfA testing period have influenced this behavior regarding the alpha. It will stay encrypted and inaccessible for longer than normal to ensure that the public's first impression is of a product that's as polished as possible. They cut into their marketing a tiny amount in order to ensure the ship is as sail-worthy as possible before testing even starts.

Can't say I blame them. It's a smart move, if not frustrating for us that want out of BFA.

[LemonDemonGirl]

What's the new level for BfA raids? 45?

[Revamp Man]

Can't say I blame them. It's a smart move, if not frustrating for us that want out of BFA.

I say blizzard will do what they always do

Plan releases around the competition in order to minimize the opposition’s hype while maximizing their own.

Remember that wildstar got killed by WoD alpha..... I miss the secondary stat flask idea

[graysontum]

What's the new level for BfA raids? 45?

Think it will be 50?
Would make sense to go from 50>60 when Shadowlands launches

[MadamSerenity]

Think it will be 50?
Would make sense to go from 50>60 when Shadowlands launches

Why? 60 is the new max level for SL. BfA raids will probably be 50.