Preferred New Class

[Mythabay]

Now, I've just seen the above mentioned numerous times and I just wanted to get an idea on the idea that was most popular. I think that they're all quite creative and cool in different aspects but yeah. I figured I'd just start this up to get an idea.

Honestly, I really like the idea of a Dragonsworn Class or a Necromancer Class. Just because I think the gameplay and gear would be really cool and it really fits right in there with the Warcraft Lore. Given the return of the Dragonflights in BFA, Dragonsworn would be an awesome addition and makes sense. And in addition, Necromancers have always been a part of World of Warcraft and so, makes perfect sense as well.

[Super Kami Dende]

I'd honestly just rather a 4th spec. Since you could add all those things to another Class anyway.

DK - Necro spec.
Dragonsworn - Mage Spec
Tinker/Ranger/Bard - Hunter/Rogue Specs

Make them a "prestige" spec that requires a Storyline or something to unlock. Something New for old Classes, instead of just new classes.

[Knolan]

I'd honestly just rather a 4th spec. Since you could add all those things to another Class anyway.

DK - Necro spec.
Dragonsworn - Mage Spec
Tinker/Ranger/Bard - Hunter/Rogue Specs

Make them a "prestige" spec that requires a Storyline or something to unlock. Something New for old Classes, instead of just new classes.

Although I would love to see a 4th spec or a new class, I don't think we will have it with the current 3 roles paradigm wow uses.

Also, I think classes/specs are far too broken right now for them to consider creating ones. Heck, last expansion they even gave up of properly modeling some of the specs and left it for the first patch.

[Resheph]

I've never seen Bard done well

Bard's Tale, original series from the 90s did it perfectly, obviously.
And LOTRO has a perfect implementation of the Bard class.

So it's certainly possible to do right.

[Nyel]

The only class that fits in the actual class/spec roster is Tinker. All the others make little sense.

[Amunrasonther]

If done right, I think Dragonsworn could be super interesting, but how can I not vote for the Necromancer?! I want to see a dark healer in game with elite skeletal sorcerer minions, a Lich form, and an apothecary spec.

[Mixxy]

My vote's on Tinker. There's a distinct lack of mail-wearers, bow/gun users, technologically-inclined class fantasies, positioning-based gameplay, deployable-based gameplay, classes with distinct visual appearances for each spec, and classes that can fill all three roles in a group.

Tinker can quite comfortably fit into all of those things.

Not to mention it'd be pretty appropriate if the next expansion winds up being about death or the void, since machinery itself is pretty much incorruptible by both of them.
(Aside from fully sentient AI. Which wouldn't be a part of a Tinker's toolkit or identity.)


All that and the fact that there's literally no reason to believe it would only be Gnomes and Goblins. Plenty of races in the game are technologically savvy.

[kappalol]

The hell is dragonsworn?

[Cosmic Janitor]

Not interested in new classes tbh. I'd rather they toned down the inflation of classes and started adding new specs to existing classes. Instead of having an ultra-niche Blademaster I'd rather have warrior's learn another spec that serves that fantasy (of beeing an orcish weeb). I'm tired of having to make a new character just to play that one niche spec, when I just should be able to on another character were it not for the artifical class restriction.

I can acknowledge though that Tinkerer is one the few that would probably serve as one the remaining niches that you can't easily add to another class, even though I don't feel the need to prop up the joke races of WoW by wasting design resources on a class only for them. I doubt Bard will ever be a thing in WoW, since WoW is 50% warhammer rip-off anyway and Bards and Minstrells don't gel well with that pseudo-macho fantasy. I have to also ask what Ranger is supposed to be, that would just be Hunter right now. Dark Ranger perhaps? This is a clear cut thing for my initial statment, I'd rather someone teach Hunter's how to shoot evil arrows than make a new class for that bullshit. Dragon sworn is still weird as a class concept and is just a Battlemage / Mage-Knight with cringy dragon theme (damn Skyrim rejects..) and Necromancer is another case for just adding it to an existing class.

[Mixxy]

Bard's Tale, original series from the 90s did it perfectly, obviously.
And LOTRO has a perfect implementation of the Bard class.

So it's certainly possible to do right.

My biggest issue with Bards in WoW is that WoW doesn't have any sort of persuasion or charisma-based mechanics. So the most essential, iconic part of the bard - in my eyes - could never exist in this game. And since WoW's design has moved so far away from micro-buff-management it can never come back (for the better, arguably), I worry it'd just end up feeling like a Priest or Mage with a guitar.

The 'Bardiest' you could make a new class feel is by just making it play like you're raiding as a Pally in Vanilla. Casting Blessings one at a time for the entire fight and maybe getting an attack or two in every few minutes.

[Hitei]

The hell is dragonsworn?

It's the most common name for a dragon-based class that there have been a bunch of different fan concepts of. Basically someone empowered by the different flights to use their magic e.g. bronze flight spec that heals by reversing wounds, shadowflame black flight dps spec, red/green flight tanking spec, etc.

[Cosmic Janitor]

The 'Bardiest' you could make a new class feel is by just making it play like you're raiding as a Pally in Vanilla. Casting Blessings one at a time for the entire fight and maybe getting an attack or two in every few minutes.

In most video games Bards are just medium to long range fighters with buff utility. I think the bigger issue here that WoW has absolutely no thematic hook for that. The only thing that comes even close would be the in-house meme band Lvl.X Tauren Chieftain, but there are none of these in tavers or the like. Wow does really badly in that apsect when it comes to medival high fantasy.

[Beloren]

I want a bard, swavvy, charismatic, loveable bard. Cloth user - somehow able to tank preferrably.

[Cosmic Janitor]

It's the most common name for a dragon-based class that there have been a bunch of different fan concepts of. Basically someone empowered by the different flights to use their magic e.g. bronze flight spec that heals by reversing wounds, shadowflame black flight dps spec, red/green flight tanking spec, etc.

Has anyone actually propsed to make the 2 most healery flights the tank spec, really?

[Throwme]

I picked Other. ANY kind of Mail class would do in my book. As long as it's using Mail as primary armor type, I'm fine with it. But it has to be Mail.
Get it? We need more Mail using classes, no more of this Leather BS!

[Heeresman]

So the hypothetical is that if they add a new class, that that class will be balanced, both around its skill set and in relation to performing with other classes, have significant class identity and skills which, if you combine all that it will produce a fun and viable class to play....


"You think you do but you don't"

[Hitei]

My biggest issue with Bards in WoW is that WoW doesn't have any sort of persuasion or charisma-based mechanics. So the most essential, iconic part of the bard - in my eyes - could never exist in this game. And since WoW's design has moved so far away from micro-buff-management it can never come back (for the better, arguably), I worry it'd just end up feeling like a Priest or Mage with a guitar.

The 'Bardiest' you could make a new class feel is by just making it play like you're raiding as a Pally in Vanilla. Casting Blessings one at a time for the entire fight and maybe getting an attack or two in every few minutes.

That is not even remotely the most essential or iconic part of a bard class. Bard's essential nature is being a music-based support caster. If anything the persuasion and charisma nature of bard comes from it being rogue-adjacent and feeding into that charming scoundrel archetype. No one is going to confuse a rogue or paladin who is good at persuasion and charisma stuff for being a bard. You put an instrument on anyone in a combat situation and you're immediately going to question if that is a bard.

Just because wow's design moves away from a conceptual space doesn't mean it can't ever return to that. Nor does it really need to. Healer would clearly be the support spec of a hypothetical bard class, and that presents a unique space for it: We have a spec like Disc that's gimmick is healing and damaging, there's no reason there couldn't be a bard healing spec that's gimmick is healing and small scale boosting the Damage/healing of party members--briefly duplicating a friendly caster's spells or causing a melee to emit AoE echoes of their attacks.

DPS specs can be pure DPS specs. A 100% ranged sound-based casting spec, and a gish melee spec that uses a single one-hand weapon empowered by magic.

Has anyone actually propsed to make the 2 most healery flights the tank spec, really?

I don't know, I haven't particularly read any of the concepts people have made. I would just assume that a healing spec would never be green dragonflight based, because it would be nearly identical to Resto druids, whereas Bronze time-healing is more unique.

[Ditchwater]

More like a unlocking specc like hunters as dark ranger . or change talents back to old talent trees so you can play hybrids.

[Wangming]

If it is anything like Amun's idea, Necromancer. If it has both melee and ranged spec, Dark Ranger. If not, I want Bard, the out of left field crazy class with lots of potential.

[Fetus Rex]

Dragonsworn is the best option no matter what hipsters think.