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    Trump is so desperate to build his wall he's urging underlings to just steal land

    He also wants it done by election day and is promising pardons to anyone who breaks the law in his name. He evidently feels not getting his wall built before then will undermine the devotion his supporters shows towards him and be an embarrassing defeat. The White House response to the fact that he's urging aides to violate due process and just steal land and promising pardons is the usual 'He's just joking'.

    It sounds breathtakingly illegal and Trump will get bogged down in the courts if he actually tries this harebrained scheme.

    A summary that isn't behind a paywall here.
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    How in the fuck is telling people to commit crimes with a promise of being pardoned afterward not an automatic impeachment?

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    Wait wait wait.

    So he tried to get Congress to vote on it. That failed.

    He tried to sneak it into other legislation. That failed.

    He tried to close the government for it. That failed.

    His supporters tried to raise money for it. They got scammed.

    He tried to divert military funds for it. Not enough, failed.

    Now he wants to steal land.

    HAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    How in the fuck is telling people to commit crimes with a promise of being pardoned afterward not an automatic impeachment?
    Because it's God Emperor Trump making these decrees and his GOP enablers in Congress are afraid of being targeted by him on Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Because it's God Emperor Trump making these decrees and his GOP enablers in Congress are afraid of being targeted by him on Twitter.
    I am 99% sure that this qualifies as a criminal conspiracy.

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    You'd think a man that does so much winning he wouldn't need any win so badly.

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    They're already doing that down there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    I am 99% sure that this qualifies as a criminal conspiracy.
    Like I said, Republicans in Congress are afraid of being targeted by him. They saw what happened to reliable conservatives like Jeff Flake, Bob Corker and Mark Sanford for daring to even utter tepid criticisms of Trump.
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    If the blatant Emoluments violation of wanting to hold G7 at his place wasn't enough for everyone to get behind impeachment just recently, this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    If the blatant Emoluments violation of wanting to hold G7 at his place wasn't enough for everyone to get behind impeachment just recently, this is.
    As long as the GOP doesn't break away from him he could shoot a man in broad daylight on fifth avenue and get away with it. Nothing will come of this story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Like I said, Republicans in Congress are afraid of being targeted by him. They saw what happened to reliable conservatives like Jeff Flake, Bob Corker and Mark Sanford for daring to even utter tepid criticisms of Trump.
    Then the Republican party is also part of this criminal conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    As long as the GOP doesn't break away from him he could shoot a man in broad daylight on fifth avenue and get away with it. Nothing will come of this story.
    Before I was one of those people who thought "He deserves to be impeached, but it isn't politically a good idea to attempt doing so."

    Nope democrats have to move, he can't just be ignored, make the senate show their position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    How in the fuck is telling people to commit crimes with a promise of being pardoned afterward not an automatic impeachment?
    Who cares about the impeachment. Means almost nothing. Look at Bill Clinton. I want the indictment and that comes from the senate. Which is where turtle man rules so it'll never happen before 2020. After 2020 he'll be gone and the NY, DC and VA attorney's general will start ripping him to shreds on state charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smityx View Post
    Who cares about the impeachment. Means almost nothing. Look at Bill Clinton. I want the indictment and that comes from the senate. Which is where turtle man rules so it'll never happen before 2020. After 2020 he'll be gone and the NY, DC and VA attorney's general will start ripping him to shreds on state charges.
    Because impeachment means following a specific processes, it's asking for specific documents that you haven't bothered yet.

    People should stop comparing Trump to Clinton, Republicans tried to impeach Clinton because he got a BJ while Trump is Trump and should have been impeached the moment he fired Comey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Because impeachment means following a specific processes, it's asking for specific documents that you haven't bothered yet.

    People should stop comparing Trump to Clinton, Republicans tried to impeach Clinton because he got a BJ while Trump is Trump and should have been impeached the moment he fired Comey.
    He got impeached for lying about Lewinsky in the Oral Office, not the knob polishing itself. Which was just them hunting for something since they couldn't get him for a hummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    He got impeached for lying about Lewinsky in the Oral Office, not the knob polishing itself. Which was just them hunting for something since they couldn't get him for a hummer.
    If only Twitter existed back then. He could have lied about it to his 60 million followers and gotten off scot-free.

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    According to the Post’s report,, some ( unnamed aids ) have told them.... Yeah, not going to give this claim any credibility until I see evidence it is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    According to the Post’s report,, some ( unnamed aids ) have told them.... Yeah, not going to give this claim any credibility until I see evidence it is true.
    How do you find it hard to believe when Trump says stupid shit all of the time. Hell, we know Trump has looked into pardoning himself and you think he wouldn't try this shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    According to the Post’s report,, some ( unnamed aids ) have told them.... Yeah, not going to give this claim any credibility until I see evidence it is true.
    The White House responded that it was a joke... is White House lying? From the link in OP:

    The Trump administration offered the now-common White House response that his comments were actually a joke taken out of context.
    Not good enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The White House responded that it was a joke... is White House lying? From the link in OP:



    Not good enough?
    Everything Trump said is somehow a joke and yet supposed to be serious while also not being directly from the government and yet it is.

    Anyone have the newest Rosetta Stone software for Trumpflakistan?

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