Classic's success on Retail beyond BFA

[PhilUK]

It can not be denied that Classic so far has brought back a lot of old players and even brought new players into the game for the first time. So I got thinking, do you think Blizzard is going to take a hard look at classic and try to bring what made that special into the next expansion?

Though it's too late to remove some systems like AOE looting and other quality of life, but the sense of progress did shine even in Legion for a time with the artifacts.

Edit: Woah I didn't mean to imply they they should remove things like AOE looting. I just referred it being to late as its now added.

[Zyrinx]

Why in gods name would you target AOE looting, of all things, for your ire? Of all the fucked up things in retail of which there are many, the basic QOL things are not the problem.

[Waynhim]

They did that with tbc IMO. Content that wasn't accessible unless you were in a good active guild. Long attunments to get acces to endgame content. Do the majority of the playerbase really want a return to that?

Personally I enjoyed those days a lot, but I doubt I'd be willing to put down that amount of effort again.

[Popastique]

It can not be denied that Classic so far has brought back a lot of old players and even brought new players into the game for the first time. So I got thinking, do you think Blizzard is going to take a hard look at classic and try to bring what made that special into the next expansion?

Though it's too late to remove some systems like AOE looting and other quality of life, but the sense of progress did shine even in Legion for a time with the artifacts.

Bringing back for how long? That is what matters.

P.S. What Classic functions would they bring back ?

[lummiuster]

Why in gods name would you target AOE looting, of all things, for your ire? Of all the fucked up things in retail of which there are many, the basic QOL things are not the problem.

lmaooo. I'm literally a "vanilla wow purist scrub" but still the only change I would accept from classic is to have AOE loot and bigger item stacks (at least for soul shards or arrows)
Retail has 99 problems but AOE loot aint one.

[Renedric]

They did that with tbc IMO. Content that wasn't accessible unless you were in a good active guild. Long attunments to get acces to endgame content. Do the majority of the playerbase really want a return to that?

Personally I enjoyed those days a lot, but I doubt I'd be willing to put down that amount of effort again.

And it proved to work. People tend to be more invested when they see there's more ahead for them to achieve. Nowadays they're giving everyone free access to the finish line wthout much effort.

[TigTone]

Keep the games separate damn controls freaks.

I like both and want both separate.

[Fred Skinner]

Yes. i am sure it is AOE looting.

[Kithelle]

No fuck that.

People who don't want QoL and slow boring grinds can play Classic. People who want new content and gameplay improvements can play BFA.

Figures, they got their classic and now they're demanding retail be more like classic, sucks that morons like Ion would likely listen to them because he is desperate to cover up his failure.

[Zyrinx]

Classic no doubt has some lessons that could improve retail going forward (I would throw out, less linear questing as an example).

But yeah if you want "slow boring grinds" as was said above, and no QOL, then Classic is there for you.

[Raugnaut]

Imo, the only thing that needs changing is class design. Current class design is ALL kinds of fucked up. Classic class design, mainly in terms of talents, overall number of abilities (You have more buttons in Classic then you do in Retail on almost any class!) rather then preformance, is much, much better.

Blizz basically redesigned every single spec nearly from the ground up every single expansion. Blizz needs to take a single iteration and STICK with it. Add additional iterations via glyphs, talents, or even additional "fun" specs (Specs that aren't designed to be used in cutting-edge content, but are there to try the playstyle to see if it's popular)

[Lochton]

It can not be denied that Classic so far has brought back a lot of old players and even brought new players into the game for the first time. So I got thinking, do you think Blizzard is going to take a hard look at classic and try to bring what made that special into the next expansion?

Though it's too late to remove some systems like AOE looting and other quality of life, but the sense of progress did shine even in Legion for a time with the artifacts.

By reveiwing Classic they would not remove AoE looting, nor transmog

[Justpassing]

Figures, they got their classic and now they're demanding retail be more like classic, sucks that morons like Ion would likely listen to them because he is desperate to cover up his failure.

This will never stop, will it?.. until every MMO on the market is... classic. D:

[rohoz]

its almost like its the third day
calling success on day 3 guys
bfa is dead

[khazmodan]

By reveiwing Classic they would not remove AoE looting, nor transmog

They would never remove transmog but AoE looting removed would mean more time that players would take to get through content...The current developers might just make the incredibly stupid leap in thinking that this would help increase sub numbers.

[Zyrinx]

Imo, the only thing that needs changing is class design. Current class design is ALL kinds of fucked up. Classic class design, mainly in terms of talents, overall number of abilities (You have more buttons in Classic then you do in Retail on almost any class!) rather then preformance, is much, much better.

Blizz basically redesigned every single spec nearly from the ground up every single expansion. Blizz needs to take a single iteration and STICK with it. Add additional iterations via glyphs, talents, or even additional "fun" specs (Specs that aren't designed to be used in cutting-edge content, but are there to try the playstyle to see if it's popular)

I mean aren't 3/4 of the Classic classes, community branded as unplayable? Tanks without taunts and all that? That's not better.

There was a happy medium of all classes fucntional but not all classes the same, people say MoP but my memory sucks so I can't really say. I DO agree with you on class redesigns every expansion, that needs to stop (assuming they get them back to a decent state first).

[Kithelle]

This will never stop, will it?.. until every MMO on the market is... classic. D:

I guess masochists want everyone else to suffer like them despite that it being their choice to suffer?

[Zyrinx]

They would never remove transmog but AoE looting removed would mean more time that players would take to get through content...The current developers might just make the incredibly stupid leap in thinking that this would help increase sub numbers.

yeah i think removing xmog (or for that matter, flying) would be like a 50% sub loss overnight, not even joking.

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I guess masochists want everyone else to suffer like them despite that it being their choice to suffer?

Yup, look at the No Flying and Leveling Is Too Fast crowds.

[Kauko]

Its been two days... chill

[TigTone]

Removal of xmog and I’m gone from both.
I can live with no flying.