I think 8.3 has a surprise

[Revamp Man]

I loved the MoP legendary questline. Great story, little bit of farming and a great reward with some very cool effects.
I'd like to see this make a comeback in BfA

After talking to some guildies...I agree

It was essentially the overall most rewarding system and the only downfall was the lack of excitement I guess since you could calculate when you would get it

[Lodreh]

But then your spec would be the same all expansion. A legendary would change your build mid-expansion. Having multiple legendaries changes it even further.

I play multiple characters so I guess the idea of a spec not changing in the middle of an expansion is very appealing.

[Erlking]

Wow needs simpler progression path. This is why classic is so popular now.

[Bepples]

I haven't liked any version of them.

In MOP and WOD blah blah blah

In Legion blah blah blah

There were more expansions than those three.

It's really not. They are just an added headache. You already got an artifact and azerite gear. Maybe they should dye them in orange borders for you. Maybe there's an addon that can do that for you.

Honestly, legendaries are the last thing the game needs atm.

...again, yes it is short-sighted because you are laser-focused on one specific implementation of legendaries.

Other expansions have had very different ways of doing them. For example, they used to be long and difficult quest chains to get a specific weapon e.g. Dragonwrath, Val'anyr, Shadowmourne. Having a super unique and powerful reward like that is a good thing.

MoP, WoD, and Legion's problem was legendaries were just part of the routine; you were expected to just do the checklist task and get them on every toon. I do think there needs to be things like Shadowmourne in the game again.

[Swnem]

There were more expansions than those three.



...again, yes it is short-sighted because you are laser-focused on one specific implementation of legendaries.

Other expansions have had very different ways of doing them. For example, they used to be long and difficult quest chains to get a specific weapon e.g. Dragonwrath, Val'anyr, Shadowmourne. Having a super unique and powerful reward like that is a good thing.

MoP, WoD, and Legion's problem was legendaries were just part of the routine; you were expected to just do the checklist task and get them on every toon. I do think there needs to be things like Shadowmourne in the game again.

Sorry but i don't see the point of adding items for the select few. It's a waste of dev time, especially with how quickly they become obsolete. If you are gonna do them then do it like Mists and WoD, but really, it is really far from being a big concern atm. Actually i am surprised you care this much. The game has much bigger problems and you can't wait for orange borders. We don't need legendaries.

[faithbane]

Sorry but i don't see the point of adding items for the select few. It's a waste of dev time, especially with how quickly they become obsolete. If you are gonna do them then do it like Mists and WoD, but really, it is really far from being a big concern atm. Actually i am surprised you care this much. The game has much bigger problems and you can't wait for orange borders. We don't need legendaries.

the legendaries in vanilla were only for a select few and it even took guild effort to craft them yet they are the most popular and well known legendaries in the game. 15 years into the game, looting the eye of sulfuras is still one of the most memorable moments for me in all of wow.

Having something very rare/unique is what it is all about. The welfare system is killing the game. There were people drooling over the full tier 2/3 sets while you were just chilling in capital and they had dreams/goal/motivation to get it themselves one day instead of whining about why they don't also get the same thing with minimal effort..

I know shift towards the welfare epics/legendaries happened from the community as well but it was incentivazed by blizzard and got out of control. Tell me 1 amazing item you got from mop to current era that you still remember when/how you looted it and how much excited you were when you got it.. you really can't. On the other hand, Im sure many people can jump in and tell their stories of something amazing that dropped for them in early days of wow that they still remember.

[Swnem]

the legendaries in vanilla were only for a select few and it even took guild effort to craft them yet they are the most popular and well known legendaries in the game. 15 years into the game, looting the eye of sulfuras is still one of the most memorable moments for me in all of wow.

Having something very rare/unique is what it is all about. The welfare system is killing the game. There were people drooling over the full tier 2/3 sets while you were just chilling in capital and they had dreams/goal/motivation to get it themselves one day instead of whining about why they don't also get the same thing with minimal effort..

I know shift towards the welfare epics/legendaries happened from the community as well but it was incentivazed by blizzard and got out of control. Tell me 1 amazing item you got from mop to current era that you still remember when/how you looted it and how much excited you were when you got it.. you really can't. On the other hand, Im sure many people can jump in and tell their stories of something amazing that dropped for them in early days of wow that they still remember.

The welfare system? You mean the casino system is ruining the game.

There were plenty of welfares before and it was no problem. Best gear came from the hardest difficulty level. It was Legion and it's RNG that ruined it.

I am not saying that legendaries should never come back, but we got much bigger problems and a legendary is not gonna solve it and might actually just make it worse. Actually the last legendary they did in Antorus was dreadful in how low drop it was. I certainly don't want yet more RNG. Personally if we have a new legendary i do hope it's a deterministic one you can work towards.

Also, i don't care about amazing items like you do. I care about being able to reach a temporary end to the game. So, basically get the BiS kit of the tier and just enjoy/chill for a while. Legendaries just add more headaches to me personally, so i'm not a fan.

The post might've come out stronger than i intended. It is perfectly fine for you to want legendaries. You like them a lot. I don't. It's an opinion thing and it's fine.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

I think the surprise is that there is not going to be an 8.3.
I've been thinking about this more and more recently, and it is starting to make some sense.
The main thing that make me think this is if the war campaign ends in 7.2.5, what could come next?
More so, with blizzcon less than 2 months away, will they really announce 8.3 AND a new expansion?
To me, it seems like 8.3 would have to be already under testing for it to be out in a time frame that would make sense for the expansion.

Its likely coming out next summer right?
So if so, how is there time for ANOTHER whole tier, when the testing hasn't even begun yet?

[pewpmeiser]

Wow needs simpler progression path. This is why classic is so popular now.

It's popular because of nostalgia, and it will fade.

[Trumpcat]

I don't think legendaries are coming back. For some reason, a lot of people didn't like them. I thought they were awesome because they provided great power that changed the way I played my character. I guess people got upset because they didn't find what was considered the best legendary for their spec.

Because RNG determined I will spend 2/3 of the expansion without my spec enabling legendaries whereas RNG also determined others will get them with their first few drops. It was not fun.

[Sanguinerd]

Maybe the surprise is 8.3 = 9.0 and it's coming sooner than we expect.

I loved the MoP legendary questline. Great story, little bit of farming and a great reward with some very cool effects.
I'd like to see this make a comeback in BfA

Yes please.

[khazmodan]

It's popular because of nostalgia, and it will fade.

It is still the top game on Twitch, nobody is watching people play retail and when was the last time retail was the top game being watched on Twitch?

[Hittion]

I bet it's going to be a surprise on the level of vol jin becoming war chief after SoO.

[Soon-TM]

I think the surprise is that there is not going to be an 8.3.
I've been thinking about this more and more recently, and it is starting to make some sense.
The main thing that make me think this is if the war campaign ends in 7.2.5, what could come next?
More so, with blizzcon less than 2 months away, will they really announce 8.3 AND a new expansion?
To me, it seems like 8.3 would have to be already under testing for it to be out in a time frame that would make sense for the expansion.

Its likely coming out next summer right?
So if so, how is there time for ANOTHER whole tier, when the testing hasn't even begun yet?

My thoughts as well. That would also explain why there's been such a conspicuous radio silence about 8.3 at Irvine.

[Erlking]

It's popular because of nostalgia, and it will fade.

I have never played classic but I am enjoying it. Its not nostalgia for me.

[rrayy]

Isn't the Heart of Azeroth technically a legendary-level like item? It's an orange item. I don't see a legendary in 8.3, it appears like Blizzard feels it overdid legendary weapons in Legion.

The Heart of Azeroth is about as legendary as the artifact weapon in Legion and that didn't stop them from all the legendaries that expansion gave out.

[TheRevenantHero]

So blizzard has made a pattern of having legendaries in one way or another throughout every expansion

MoP was the first time that everyone got a legendary

From then we always had some questline that led to the legendary or a system that blizzard announced

In BFA.... nothing

But here is where I think the legendary is coming

1. Wrathion is back and had a hand in legendaries ever since MoP (he was at the tower in WoD just before the warden fight. You could see him flying away)
2. You could say that the war campaign is the new questline giving little goodies with each new line
3. Announcing that there would be a legendary item along with azerite gear AND the neck would immediately trigger the "why remove tier if you do this" argument


Anyways I think that we are getting a new legendary to help against the black empire and it will be cosmetically different based on the factions but function the same.

What are your thoughts?

The war campaign ends in 8.2.5. /thread

[rrayy]

It is still the top game on Twitch, nobody is watching people play retail and when was the last time retail was the top game being watched on Twitch?

So? YOu don't play the game on twitch. It ais also tops on Twitch because it is the newest game out there. Finally, trust me, there are people playing retail on Twitch and many people still do watch it. LOL at you trying to use Twitch as an argument,

[Fred Skinner]

I think people who want to min max everything should have a lot of stress to think about focusing on a subset of progression only.

But i also think horizontal progression would be something interesting for WoW while Blizzard surely disagrees.

[FAILoZOFF]

Maybe the surprise is 8.3 = 9.0 and it's coming sooner than we expect.

Well, sometime ago they have been talking about the will to push expansions yearly... so... who knows.