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I bet Rudy's regretting those interviews now.Originally Posted by Edge-
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2019-09-30, 08:07 PM #1381Scarab Lord
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And I bet that Trump wish he had the same option of lead-poisining that Putin does. Originally Posted by Nelinrah
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2019-09-30, 08:21 PM #1383Moderator
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/u...r-mueller.html
Apparently Ukraine isn't the only country Trump is trying to pressure into working with Barr, whom he is treating as his personal lawyer, to help him politically. And apparently he's trying to hide these transcripts too.President Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent telephone call to help Attorney General William P. Barr gather information for a Justice Department inquiry that Mr. Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials with knowledge of the call.
The White House restricted access to the call’s transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president that is at the heart of House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump. Like that call, the discussion with Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia shows the extent to which Mr. Trump sees the attorney general as a critical partner in his goal to show that the Mueller investigation had corrupt and partisan origins, and the extent that Mr. Trump sees the Justice Department inquiry as a potential way to gain leverage over America’s closest allies.
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2019-09-30, 08:24 PM #1384Moderator
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Agreed. Every call with a foreign leader since he went into office, including and especially Putin, should be released to the House/Senate for review at this point. Originally Posted by Vegas82
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2019-09-30, 08:26 PM #1385The Undying
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All things considered, I have to wonder how Australia's PM will deal with this publicly. Pretty sure his constituents aren't going to be pleased.
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2019-09-30, 08:28 PM #1386The Unstoppable Force
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After what happened with that transcript they will claim executive privilege and hope the courts slow it down to a crawl so it doesn't get released until after the election. Originally Posted by Edge-
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I would bet good money the CIA or some other spy agency has the transcripts because they were listening on the other side of the conversation as well. Originally Posted by Vegas82
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2019-09-30, 08:28 PM #1387The Insane
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Why not Florence? Originally Posted by Skroe
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What the world has learned is that America is never more than one election away from losing its goddamned mindMe on Elite : Dangerous | My WoW characters Originally Posted by Howard Tayler
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2019-09-30, 08:29 PM #1388Old God
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shhhhhh, only thing republicans support impeachment for is lying about getting a BJ.....but we all know what would happen if he got caught, they would flop. Originally Posted by Edge-
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2019-09-30, 08:30 PM #1389The Unstoppable Force
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Let's see if he refuses. Originally Posted by Edge-
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2019-09-30, 08:38 PM #1390Moderator
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WF25P
WSJ reporting (through Reuters) that Pompeo was involved with the Ukraine call.
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2019-09-30, 08:40 PM #1391I am Murloc!
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Blah I need to unignore people to see this thread...
But yeah... Trump is probably screwed.
More is obviously going to come out. If sentiment was moving with the Ukraine issue, adding another country to that list will definitely move opinion further in favor of impeachment.
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2019-09-30, 08:48 PM #1392Banned
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Which itself is an impeachable offense. Originally Posted by Nymrohd
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2019-09-30, 08:56 PM #1393Void Lord
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Lol. Originally Posted by Shadowferal
The Liberal Party of Australia may as well be a resin-preserved version of the early 2000s GOP. His constituents will either think what Trump did was entirely reasonable or they will simply ignore it like they ignore every other despicable thing the Coalition does. Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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Ukraine and Australia are almost certainly the tip of the iceberg. Originally Posted by kaelleria
Just you wait for the Russia calls.
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It was a matter of time. Originally Posted by Edge-
Giuliani has already gone on record suggesting, if Trump won't allow it, he won't testify. I've already gone on record saying "try it, you whoresfucker sidekick".
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2019-09-30, 09:05 PM #1396Moderator
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Honestly, I'm wondering what Putin will do if those are released. I say "if" because while they should absolutely come out, I'm not putting it past Democrats to fuck up one of the most softball pitches anyone has ever received on this topic. Originally Posted by Skroe
Never, ever underestimate the incompetence of the Democrats when it comes to playing politics. They can govern, but their political game is fucking garbage.
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2019-09-30, 09:06 PM #1397Pandaren Monk
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Again is the hilarious implication that the Mueller report was indeed damaging to Trump if he's going to these lengths.
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Serious question: Originally Posted by Skroe
If there are indeed damning calls with Russia...why not a similar whistleblower complaint on that front thus far?
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2019-09-30, 09:08 PM #1398Scarab Lord
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He probably will. And the Democrat's threat of charging him and Trump with obstruction better not be an idle threat. Originally Posted by Belize
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The MBS calls will probably screw him too, but not as badly. Originally Posted by Skroe
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The whistleblower might not have gotten the information for that. Or it was given to someone else that is actually still sucking the fake tanner off Trump's nuts. Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned
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There are only 4 answers. Originally Posted by Shadowferal
1) Publicly admit Trump asked, and he agreed.
2) Publicly admit Trump asked, but he didn't agree (including refusal)
3) Publicly admit Trump never asked.
4) Stay silent.
Yeah #4 makes nobody happy.
#1 will be the kiss of death for the Australian PM. He owes Trump nothing, of course, and I don't remember them getting along well. Even if it was true, he might not say #1 because of the fallout.
If he wants to stay unharmed politically, but also attack Trump, he will say #2 even if it's not true.
If he really wanted to stay politically untouched, but also not attack Trump out of fear of reprisal or something, he'd deny the call happened. Of course, if the call didn't happen, he should also do this. If he lies and claims the call exists, when it does not, he could be pressured to release the transcripts.
So we're waiting on the Australian PM to see how much he values Trump as a fellow world leader.
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