1. #12681
    Lol, what "business of the Senate" are they pretending to worry would get impeded by calling witnesses? Would it interrupt continuing NOT to pass legislation?

  2. #12682
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Lol, what "business of the Senate" are they pretending to worry would get impeded by calling witnesses? Would it interrupt continuing NOT to pass legislation?
    Passing more hardcore right wing judges, that's all the senate does these days.

  3. #12683
    Tim Scott "thinking it will be 51-49" ...
    He seemed pretty confident, so that means pretty much all chose treason > country... I wonder what will happen then. There HAVE to be mass protests

  4. #12684
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    Out of curiousity, what would it look like if the Senate voted to convict tomorrow? Is it effective immediately? Would President Pence have to give the state of the union on Tuesday?

    Obviously we have never removed a President before, what are the rules for that? Who determines the rules?

  5. #12685
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Passing more hardcore right wing judges, that's all the senate does these days.
    That's true, they do a lot of that!

  6. #12686
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Out of curiousity, what would it look like if the Senate voted to convict tomorrow? Is it effective immediately? Would President Pence have to give the state of the union on Tuesday?
    I guess?

    We will never find out though, because that will not happen. The chance that they will convict tomorrow are literally 0%.
    They will not vote against witnesses to just find 19 GOP senators to convict then

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    Fuck off Meadows...
    It's not Schiff questioning the guilt, but your party's morale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    I guess?

    We will never find out though, because that will not happen. The chance that they will convict tomorrow are literally 0%.
    They will not vote against witnesses to just find 19 GOP senators to convict then

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    Fuck off Meadows...
    It's not Schiff questioning the guilt, but your party's morale.
    I know, it was a process question, not a realistic one. I know it won't happen. I just have no idea what a guilty vote would even look like.

  8. #12688
    I know i should be annoyed but I can't help but laugh when Republican's try the "But Hillary/Steele" BS, the House reps are having none of it.

  9. #12689
    Was watching the news and just happened to get another dose of "Don't forget Rand Paul is a piece of shit"

    Storming out like a petulant child because the chief justice won't break federal law.

  10. #12690
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...nt-sot-vpx.cnn

    Dershowitz professor "source" disagrees with Dershowitz using him as a source, because he doesn't support his arguments.

  11. #12691
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Was watching the news and just happened to get another dose of "Don't forget Rand Paul is a piece of shit"

    Storming out like a petulant child because the chief justice won't break federal law.
    #ArrestRandPaul trends on Twitter after he walks out over impeachment question

    When Roberts blocked his question, Paul walked out of the Senate and read it aloud to reporters behind a podium before tweeting it out. Paul has named the alleged whistleblower before and has repeatedly urged that the tipster be outed publicly.

    "Anybody who doesn’t speak out against Rand Paul outing the #Whistleblower in an interview today, may as well have done it themselves. Sometimes it’s what you fail to say that speaks louder than anything you’ve ever shouted from the rooftops. #ArrestRandPaul," one Twitter user wrote.

    Another retweeted Paul's tweet explaining his question and wrote, "he does not know the identity of the whistleblower but is saying the name of a man he assumes to be, putting that man's life at risk with no concrete evidence! #ArrestRandPaul if ANYTHING happens to that man!"

    A third tweeted, "When you have a criminal POTUS who you believe is above the law, you're obviously more inclined to think *you're* above the law. The actions of Rand Paul prove this. The GOP no longer has a moral compass as to what is right and wrong. #ArrestRandPaul and hold him accountable."
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    "At a time when large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government, does the fact that the chief justice is presiding over an impeachment trial in which Republican senators have thus far refused to allow witnesses or evidence contribute to the loss of legitimacy of the chief justice, the supreme court, and the constitution?"
    ~~Question asked by Senator Warren, as read aloud by Roberts.

  12. #12692
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    #ArrestRandPaul trends on Twitter after he walks out over impeachment question

    When Roberts blocked his question, Paul walked out of the Senate and read it aloud to reporters behind a podium before tweeting it out. Paul has named the alleged whistleblower before and has repeatedly urged that the tipster be outed publicly.

    "Anybody who doesn’t speak out against Rand Paul outing the #Whistleblower in an interview today, may as well have done it themselves. Sometimes it’s what you fail to say that speaks louder than anything you’ve ever shouted from the rooftops. #ArrestRandPaul," one Twitter user wrote.

    Another retweeted Paul's tweet explaining his question and wrote, "he does not know the identity of the whistleblower but is saying the name of a man he assumes to be, putting that man's life at risk with no concrete evidence! #ArrestRandPaul if ANYTHING happens to that man!"

    A third tweeted, "When you have a criminal POTUS who you believe is above the law, you're obviously more inclined to think *you're* above the law. The actions of Rand Paul prove this. The GOP no longer has a moral compass as to what is right and wrong. #ArrestRandPaul and hold him accountable."
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    "At a time when large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government, does the fact that the chief justice is presiding over an impeachment trial in which Republican senators have thus far refused to allow witnesses or evidence contribute to the loss of legitimacy of the chief justice, the supreme court, and the constitution?"
    ~~Question asked by Senator Warren, as read aloud by Roberts.
    Just waiting on the Trumo defense force to stop fellating him to come to Rand's rescue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...nt-sot-vpx.cnn

    Dershowitz professor "source" disagrees with Dershowitz using him as a source, because he doesn't support his arguments.
    So I can't wait for a Democrat to tak office the arrest every GOP politician and SCOTUS appointee and claim they believe it's in the best interest if the nation if Trumo gets acquitted. I mean the arrested members and GOP supporters would have no ground to stand on since the stood by and supported this expansion of presidential powers.

  13. #12693
    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    I don’t really understand why. It takes less than a minute to find out who the whistleblower is. They say it’s to protect him, but that’s a load of crap. If people really want to know who he is they can find out.
    Considering how rabid Trump supporters are, even threatening to kill people if Trump is impeached and removed, yeah, it is to protect him or her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    It’s not him.
    You think it is that guy that some random publication claimed it was? It might not even be him. What if it isn't him? And Trump supporters have been threatening his life for NOTHING?

  14. #12694
    So, Murkowski is a yes on witnesses
    Does that mean Alexander will be a no later?

  15. #12695
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    So, Murkowski is a yes on witnesses
    Does that mean Alexander will be a no later?
    It's looking that way

  16. #12696
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    #ArrestRandPaul trends on Twitter after he walks out over impeachment question

    When Roberts blocked his question, Paul walked out of the Senate and read it aloud to reporters behind a podium before tweeting it out. Paul has named the alleged whistleblower before and has repeatedly urged that the tipster be outed publicly.

    "Anybody who doesn’t speak out against Rand Paul outing the #Whistleblower in an interview today, may as well have done it themselves. Sometimes it’s what you fail to say that speaks louder than anything you’ve ever shouted from the rooftops. #ArrestRandPaul," one Twitter user wrote.

    Another retweeted Paul's tweet explaining his question and wrote, "he does not know the identity of the whistleblower but is saying the name of a man he assumes to be, putting that man's life at risk with no concrete evidence! #ArrestRandPaul if ANYTHING happens to that man!"

    A third tweeted, "When you have a criminal POTUS who you believe is above the law, you're obviously more inclined to think *you're* above the law. The actions of Rand Paul prove this. The GOP no longer has a moral compass as to what is right and wrong. #ArrestRandPaul and hold him accountable."
    - - - Updated - - - This is interesting;

    "At a time when large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government, does the fact that the chief justice is presiding over an impeachment trial in which Republican senators have thus far refused to allow witnesses or evidence contribute to the loss of legitimacy of the chief justice, the supreme court, and the constitution?"
    ~~Question asked by Senator Warren, as read aloud by Roberts.
    Isn't it illegal for them to leave the senate while the proceedings are underway?

  17. #12697
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-retwe...-trial-1484998

    So...Trump doesn't seem to care much for who shares an opinion he likes, including if that person happens to be a conspiracy theorist loving "sex coach".

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    The National Review.

    Again, this is on the National Review.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...ian-president/

    Ukraine’s former national security council chairman said that he left the Volodymyr Zelensky administration after becoming “uncomfortable” with American efforts to coerce the opening of politically advantageous investigations.

    Oleksandr Danylyuk, speaking with The Daily Beast in his first on-the-record interview since President Trump’s impeachment began, directly contradicted December comments made by Andriy Yermak, a top Zelensky aide, who said “we never had that feeling” that a holdup in U.S. military aide was tied to the requested investigations.

    Danyluk said the request, which was detailed during the House’s impeachment inquiry by ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland, “rattled” Zelensky’s team which had worked through a draft for Ukrainian-American cooperation that “at its core” prioritized national security.

    It was a panic,” the Ukrainian said. “. . . This roadmap should have been the substance.

  18. #12698
    Holy hell in a hand basket.

    They are now just said that if Bolton came and testified as a witness, even if his testimony and it was as favorable for the articles as possible, they still wouldn't be bad enough to warrant impeachment....
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
    "mmo-champion.com##li.postbitignored"
    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

  19. #12699
    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Trump is under impeachment and he tells lies on TV every day.
    Because he believes there will be no repercussions. Parnas doesn't have the whole corrupt GOP saving his ass.

  20. #12700
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Holy hell in a hand basket.

    They are now just said that if Bolton came and testified as a witness, even if his testimony and it was as favorable for the articles as possible, they still wouldn't be bad enough to warrant impeachment....
    Murkowski and Alexander are looking for an out to not call witnesses. This was their question.

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