1. #9841
    So this is finally kicking off then?
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  2. #9842
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    So this is finally kicking off then?
    If by "kicking off" you mean "He's been impeached" then yes, he's been impeached. That's done.

  3. #9843
    Republicans last night: Ha, this impeachment will be overturned in 2 seconds by the senate
    Republicans today: How dare Pelosi withhold the articles from the senate until a fair trial is assured!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    Republicans last night: Ha, this impeachment will be overturned in 2 seconds by the senate
    Republicans today: How dare Pelosi withhold the articles from the senate until a fair trial is assured!
    Oh there's also this line coming from the Libertarians -- the only Democrat smart enough at that entire sham was Tulsi Gabbard. Now the Democrats will never win another Presidency.
    “You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X

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  5. #9845
    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...crash-sad.html

    So where's that stock market crash Trump predicted after he was impeached, again?

  6. #9846
    Welp, this is pretty big, given the source. A bit hard to ignore, too, though I've no doubt many will do their damnedest.

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...om-office.html

    TL;DR: The biggest publication in Evangelical Christianity is coming out in support of Trump's removal.

  7. #9847
    So now everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
    Kom graun, oso na graun op. Kom folau, oso na gyon op.

    #IStandWithGinaCarano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Welp, this is pretty big, given the source. A bit hard to ignore, too, though I've no doubt many will do their damnedest.

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...om-office.html

    TL;DR: The biggest publication in Evangelical Christianity is coming out in support of Trump's removal.
    Good for them being consistent.

  9. #9849
    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    So now everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
    No. This conservative talking point needs to die, too.

    Imagine the police have all this evidence that you killed someone. They have the murder weapon with your prints on it. Witnesses that said you were at the crime scene. Motive for you to kill the victim. Evidence that you have a history of doing violent stuff in the past.

    Now, you claim you didn't do it. But you won't tell the police your alibi. You won't let them see your evidence that you didn't do it. You just insist they'll have to take your word for it that you're innocent, because you won't participate in their sham investigation.

    When they go to court, are you likely to be guilty or not guilty? If guilty, is that "guilty until proven innocent?"

  10. #9850
    EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY IS NOTHING MORE THAN HEARSAY!111
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    No. This conservative talking point needs to die, too.

    Imagine the police have all this evidence that you killed someone. They have the murder weapon with your prints on it. Witnesses that said you were at the crime scene. Motive for you to kill the victim. Evidence that you have a history of doing violent stuff in the past.

    Now, you claim you didn't do it. But you won't tell the police your alibi. You won't let them see your evidence that you didn't do it. You just insist they'll have to take your word for it that you're innocent, because you won't participate in their sham investigation.

    When they go to court, are you likely to be found innocent or guilty? If guilty, is that "guilty until proven innocent?"
    Not the best analogy with this current case. In this impeachment the jury is admitting that the defendant is already innocent because they took his word for it and ignored all the evidence presented to prove his guilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    So now everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
    everyone? what makes you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY IS NOTHING MORE THAN HEARSAY!111
    /s
    Keep in mind that eyewitness testimony is NOT hearsay. I know that you were posting in sarcasm at the ridiculous nature of the GOP's defense of the Impeachment charges, but it must be said and reminded over and over against that eyewitness testimony is called direct testimony, and is admissible in all courts.

    The GOP knows this, but chooses to push the lie, because that's all they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Welp, this is pretty big, given the source. A bit hard to ignore, too, though I've no doubt many will do their damnedest.

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...om-office.html

    TL;DR: The biggest publication in Evangelical Christianity is coming out in support of Trump's removal.
    Meh at best.
    They still support multiple Bigly lies.

    " Mr. Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the House hearings on impeachment." - LOL he turned it down, refused to participate and stopped other from.


    Something tells me the only person being removed is the editorial board of this publication
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  15. #9855
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    No. This conservative talking point needs to die, too.

    Imagine the police have all this evidence that you killed someone. They have the murder weapon with your prints on it. Witnesses that said you were at the crime scene. Motive for you to kill the victim. Evidence that you have a history of doing violent stuff in the past.

    Now, you claim you didn't do it. But you won't tell the police your alibi. You won't let them see your evidence that you didn't do it. You just insist they'll have to take your word for it that you're innocent, because you won't participate in their sham investigation.

    When they go to court, are you likely to be guilty or not guilty? If guilty, is that "guilty until proven innocent?"
    Ever seen the OJ case?

  16. #9856
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Ever seen the OJ case?
    Yeah, he provided his evidence that he didn't do it and (mostly) participated in the process. OJ is proof that even if Trump is guilty, he can participate in this "shampeachment" and still get off the hook.

  17. #9857
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Haaaaaaa hahahahahaha. Just like 2018's red wave right??!!?? Hahahahahahaha
    Who said that? First term presidents always lose seats in the midterm. Well unless you were one of the seats trump gained in the senate defying all traditional logic. Just look up the rise ofvthe TEA party in 2010. Obama lost like 50 seats that year.

  18. #9858
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Ever seen the OJ case?
    your right, trump is exactly as guilty as OJ was.

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    Well not even 24 hours after the vote Nancie doesnt want to talk about it anymore. Was it the 3% poll bump or the 10 million dollar fundraising day for Trump that has her so scared now? What a disaster this is going to be for the democrats.

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    Except twitter was all blue wave trending. It was more like a slight blue nudge if I do recall.

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