aslong the ganking person enjoys and the other is too dumb to change location its obviously not enough
Blizzard say this :
All players can actively choose when they wish to engage in PvP combat.
The following actions may be considered dishonorable but are considered legitimate PvP tactics and will not be addressed by our Game Master staff:
Corpse camping
Killing players well below your level
And corpse camping is one or 2 guys camping another players for maybe what 1 hour?
Griefing is one players or more or a guild camping a player for an extensive time then following him in another area and doing it there etc...
Do you see the difference? It is not the same level, and it is exactly what it is written in both the blue quotes that have been posted.
No, the said that they might investigate - a quick google search will bring up results - they investigate, and absolutely take actions against some of those accounts...........for things OTHER than pvp / corpse camping - its the other shit - the harassment, the messaging, etc etc.
Blizzard never communicates about the sanctions they take, and someone who got punished for that won't placate it everywhere on the web.
The communicate about ban waves which again are not the same level than punishing one single player or several players for griefing.
Were you able to figure that out from the part where I said I don't have to prove you wrong and mentioned I didn't care to?
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I already mentioned it. Mal'Ganis was one. This was back during the original PVP rules. I don't have a source for it and I don't care to prove it to you because it wouldn't change anything. I know Mal'Ganis was 99/1 Horde. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, it doesn't matter to me if you believe that.
*Even if Mal'Ganis was only 90/10 horde, it still makes my point, which is why I don't care to prove whether I'm right or wrong about the 99/1.
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"Take the time to sit down and talk with your adversaries. You will learn something, and they will learn something from you. When two enemies are talking, they are not fighting. It's when the talking ceases that the ground becomes fertile for violence. So keep the conversation going."
~ Daryl Davis
I know it was 99/1. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was 90/10. But it was deff 99/1. But probably 90/10. But I don't care. But it was deff 99/1 - I remember it deff being 99/1. Or 90/10. Whatever, who cares.
Whoa, that was a rollercoaster of backtracking and dodging, sidestepping and avoidance.
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They do - VERY clearly - Corpse camping is never actionable by a GM. They state that extremely clearly.
NO. Griefing is a very specific term when it comes to Blizzard.
The MVP term here is unreasonable. To constitute griefing or harassment in Blizard's view, the activity or behavior in question has to be unreasonable.Harassment, “griefing,” abusive behavior or chat, conduct intended to unreasonably undermine or disrupt the Game experiences of others, deliberate inactivity or disconnecting, and/or any other activity which violates Blizzard’s Code of Conduct or In-Game Policies.
Which clearly allows conduct intended to undermine or disrupt the game experiences of others, as long as it's not unreasonable.
What constitutes unreasonable is up to Blizzard, and they leave it vague on purpose.
https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/10184 -- which was updated 9 hours ago as of my posting.
The following actions may be considered dishonorable but are considered legitimate PvP tactics and will not be addressed by our Game Master staff:
- Corpse camping.
- Tricking players into getting flagged for PvP (i.e. jumping in the middle of another player's area effect spell).
- Killing players well below your level.
Which means, that those actions are never considered unreasonable.
The situation you outline here, isn't even close to unreasonable.
Furthermore, https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...650621#post-12
Bolded the important bits for you.No, the comment was perfectly valid however, the important part of what was said on the EU forums would be "day after day, over a long period of time".
If someone is specifically targeting a player over a long period of time, we may look into the matter and it is possible that we would take action based on the situation. In most situations though, where a PvP solution does exist, we generally do not become involved.
If it has been going on for days though, feel free to submit a ticket and a Game Master can take a look.
Over a long period of time, could be considered unreasonable, and they will look into it.
Thats a very large difference to the picture you are trying to paint.
This is good advice. Because where a PvP solution does exist, it's pretty much fair game to let slip the dogs of war.World of Warcraft Classic
If you do not wish to engage in regular PvP combat in Classic, select a Player versus Environment (PvE) realm. PvE realms offer a limited and structured environment for PvP encounters. Players on PvE realms can actively choose when they wish to engage in PvP combat by enabling or disabling their PvP flag at will.
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Sorry for no snip, on phone. I think this is everything I have been saying, put together in one very well formed post.
If people used any other word - frustrating, annoying, childish, anything other than griefing, it would be fine. But in this context, griefing is a very specific word with very specific meanings. People are doing mental gymnastics over something very clearly outlined by blizzard. Their deff of what IS griefing is quite vague, so they have added a few examples of things that are never griefing, and corpse camping / killing lowbies is mentioned specifically for a reason.
And so corpse camp someone for a long period of time, it is not corpse camping anymore, it becomes griefing. Thx for proving my point.