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  1. #81
    I hope Anduin puts it in Taelia's butthole so you can come on here and bitch about how anal sex is queerbaiting

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by dez1216 View Post
    This is how I read it as well, which seems to fit Wrathion to a tee imo.
    Exactly, this is what the line refers to.

    Wrathion is fickle as hell and holds great promise. Nothing else. Not that I would care one way or the other if Anduin and Wrathion were getting into a relationship (long as our king fathers an heir he can bed whoever he likes) but this line has nothing to do with it at all. Get a grip, OP.

    Worst thing is, if this gets blown up Wrathion might have to be deleted, much like poor Tracer's "features".

  3. #83
    They cannot make homosexuality normal in-game, not when there is money to be made in China.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherwax View Post
    . me.
    Nothing was implied here. Not a single thing. The only thing here, is someone wishing there was something going on. Keep your fan-faction to yourself, that stuff is personal. And stop acting like Blizzard did something wrong here, because in no way shape or form have they done anything wrong in this regard.

    As many other folks have said. If you feel that strongly that something was implied here, you should seek some help.

  5. #85
    And this is why people are annoyed with the LGBT crowd and don't feel as tolerant as 3 years ago.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherwax View Post
    A) Jaina is a gossip.
    Lolwut ?

    Wrathion has litteraly an army of spies at his command. And Jaina/Kalec relation was hardly a secret.

    So right at your first assumption. You're wrong. Period.
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  7. #87
    Well as a fellow gay guy, who would be happy with a gay relationship being portrayed in the story, I also don't like queer baiting - it's cheap, annoying, cowardly and worse than doing nothing at all.
    BUT I don't think there is enough evidence that's what's happening here. If indeed it turns out to be an example of it, while maybe I won't share a reaction as passionate as yours, I won't be a fan of it for sure. Let's see where they may go with it.
    As others have mentioned, Shaw has hinted at a secret love interest. I have a feeling that Shaw would be a character they wouldn't mind being gay... And Taelia I feel has been setup to be Anduin's love interest. Some people have interpreted it as referring to Valeera though.

    That being said, while I think you are being hasty and jumping to conclusions too fast, comments disregarding queerbaiting as a concept are wrong, in my opinion. Either they are not familiar with it, or too distanced from the subject to care. Don't get discouraged by them. But I will advise that we wait for further developments to cast judgement

    I also find it funny that when this one aspect of the writing and story is criticized it's "snowflakes" and "triggered" from posters, most of whom have been complaining about every aspect of the writing and story all year long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paraka View Post
    They cannot make homosexuality normal in-game, not when there is money to be made in China.
    Doesn't China play Overwatch?

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    Seek therapy if you get triggered this hard by Video Game dialogue that requires you to apply copious amounts of your own Mental Gymnastic context to get angry about.
    and here this thread should have been closed.

    @OP Anduin or Wrathion is bad FanFic and will nevr happen in game, deal with it or get help....

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    Jesus fucking christ, idk if this dumbass is a troll or not but they have literally -NEVER- implied that idiotic and utterly braindead Wrathion / Anduin fanfic that a bunch of twilight loving teens are pushing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherwax View Post
    snip
    Dude...take a breather and stop trying to ship them, it isn't funny...almost getting as bad as Reylo fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherwax View Post
    Why would this dialogue start with Wrathion mentioning Kalecgos' romance with Jaina if there was no romantic connotation to the rest of the dialogue?
    It's obvious when Wrathion is talking about humans he's talking about their potential as romantic partners.

    And Kalecgos' response obviously shows that he knows of at least one human who wants to have or is already in a relationship with Wrathion.

    Wrathions acknowledges it too, with his last line.

    What can we get out of this exchange?

    A) Jaina is a gossip.
    B) Whoever wants a relationship (or already has one) with Wrathion is close enough to Jaina to share their interest in Wrathion with her.
    C) That whoever is definitely a human.

    This is some ridiculous queerbaiting, Blizzard.
    We all know you won't make Wranduin canon, so why the hell are you so heavily implying it?
    There's no other human close enough to Wrathion and Jaina but Anduin, for crying out loud.

    I stg man, this is offensive on all levels, and before anyone says anything, I AM LGBT MYSELF. IT IS OFFENSIVE TO ME.
    I seriously hate queerbaiting because it never leads to anything and just serves to give yaoi fangirls fanfic fodder while at the same time making all the homophobic players attack everything LGBT-related, including us queer players.

    It makes a mockery of us imo.

    So please Blizzard, if you're not gonna have the balls to make this canon, don't even imply it.
    Get rid of this interaction entirely, and if you're gonna give Wrathion a woman as a wife, introduce her into the story right now, no stupid speculation.

    Have some damned respect for your player, please.

    Edit: I don't know if some people are just too dense to realize things, but I'm not defending Wranduin here. On the contrary, I am denouncing Blizzard for putting in dialogue that can misconstrued by shippers in order to queerbait people into thinking Wranduin can happen. So please stop harassing me.
    I am not in need of psychiatric help just because I can see a trope being used in a story. And if you think you're cool by telling people who simply mention the existence of queerbaiting to seek help, I'm sorry to say you're not. You're simply trolling.

    Edit 2: Let me try to make you understand. IF - not that they will, but if - Blizzard ups and makes Wrathion and Anduin a couple, won't you, a straight person, get royally mad that they did that, because all the conversations were vague?

    You will, right? Because not only you don't want Anduin or Wrathion to be gay, but you don't want them to be together based on vague conversations.

    That's exactly where I'm coming from, but from the other side. I do not enjoy Blizzard putting up vague dialogues from which people MIGHT construe queer relationships that don't exist because that's offensive. It's purposely vague to feed fanfiction.

    It's as offensive as queer relationships being made canon "out of nowhere".

    Also, I'm not talking on behalf of anyone else but myself. And guess what, I can speak for myself. If you don't agree, you have no reason to attack me. I'm not attacking you. I'm just complaining about an issue that affects me.
    good job taking everything out of context, he is not sayign there is a human looking for a relationship with wrathion, read the ACTUAL QUOTE.

    Wrathion: Kalecgos. I am told you entered into a relationship with a human.
    Kalecgos: I... well, it is... complicated.
    Wrathion: Humans often can be. Like all mortals, they are fickle beings, yet they hold great promise.
    Kalecgos: From what I have been told, certain mortals might say the same thing about you.

    Wrathion: Hmph. Complicated indeed..

    Kalecgos is saying that some mortals see wrathion as fickle but holds great promise.
    if it was this
    Wrathion: Kalecgos. I am told you entered into a relationship with a human.
    Kalecgos: From what I have been told, certain mortals might say the same thing about you.


    then you would have an argument. but no, kalecgoes is just saying people call wrathion fickle and holds great promise, he is not saying there is a mortal realtionship in his life. get it together man. notice where sentences are being placed. kalec isa saying "some say same about you" in response to him saying mortals are fickle and hold promise.
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    This seems like a awkward start of a conversation like you just met a old uncle or cousin whatever kalec is to Wrathion, and don't have anything else to talk about besides what was publicly posted social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kappalol View Post
    He falls under Nzoth corruption as DW did. nothing more to do for him. Look at his model. Being torn apart
    If you read all the Dungeon journal entries, he survives and comes back for another boss fight later on.

    OT: I don't think it's hinting at anything other than humans questioning Wrathion's everchanging nature.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherwax View Post
    Why would this dialogue start with Wrathion mentioning Kalecgos' romance with Jaina if there was no romantic connotation to the rest of the dialogue?
    It's obvious when Wrathion is talking about humans he's talking about their potential as romantic partners.

    And Kalecgos' response obviously shows that he knows of at least one human who wants to have or is already in a relationship with Wrathion.

    Wrathions acknowledges it too, with his last line.

    What can we get out of this exchange?

    A) Jaina is a gossip.
    B) Whoever wants a relationship (or already has one) with Wrathion is close enough to Jaina to share their interest in Wrathion with her.
    C) That whoever is definitely a human.

    This is some ridiculous queerbaiting, Blizzard.
    We all know you won't make Wranduin canon, so why the hell are you so heavily implying it?
    There's no other human close enough to Wrathion and Jaina but Anduin, for crying out loud.

    I stg man, this is offensive on all levels, and before anyone says anything, I AM LGBT MYSELF. IT IS OFFENSIVE TO ME.
    I seriously hate queerbaiting because it never leads to anything and just serves to give yaoi fangirls fanfic fodder while at the same time making all the homophobic players attack everything LGBT-related, including us queer players.

    It makes a mockery of us imo.

    So please Blizzard, if you're not gonna have the balls to make this canon, don't even imply it.
    Get rid of this interaction entirely, and if you're gonna give Wrathion a woman as a wife, introduce her into the story right now, no stupid speculation.

    Have some damned respect for your player, please.

    Edit: I don't know if some people are just too dense to realize things, but I'm not defending Wranduin here. On the contrary, I am denouncing Blizzard for putting in dialogue that can misconstrued by shippers in order to queerbait people into thinking Wranduin can happen. So please stop harassing me.
    I am not in need of psychiatric help just because I can see a trope being used in a story. And if you think you're cool by telling people who simply mention the existence of queerbaiting to seek help, I'm sorry to say you're not. You're simply trolling.

    Edit 2: Let me try to make you understand. IF - not that they will, but if - Blizzard ups and makes Wrathion and Anduin a couple, won't you, a straight person, get royally mad that they did that, because all the conversations were vague?

    You will, right? Because not only you don't want Anduin or Wrathion to be gay, but you don't want them to be together based on vague conversations.

    That's exactly where I'm coming from, but from the other side. I do not enjoy Blizzard putting up vague dialogues from which people MIGHT construe queer relationships that don't exist because that's offensive. It's purposely vague to feed fanfiction.

    It's as offensive as queer relationships being made canon "out of nowhere".

    Also, I'm not talking on behalf of anyone else but myself. And guess what, I can speak for myself. If you don't agree, you have no reason to attack me. I'm not attacking you. I'm just complaining about an issue that affects me.
    Step out into the sunlight and take a breath or two.

  15. #95
    What the fuck did I just half-read?
    "Auto-correct is my worst enema."

  16. #96
    The tease is supposed to make you laugh and be like "Oh i see what you did there"

    This is coming from someone who is Bi and trans. So shut up, stop being triggering over something so small.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Anastacy View Post
    What the fuck did I just half-read?
    It's called "fake outrage" and it's the foundation upon which Twitter was built.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherwax View Post
    Please read the dialogue again.
    Wrathion openly states that Kalecgos has a relationship with a human.
    It's not that Kalecgos interacts with humans. He has a human mate, Jaina.
    Kalecgos answers that the relationship is complicated.
    Wrathion tells Kalecgos how he views humans in a relationship context. That happens because they are talking about romantic relationships.
    Kalecgos says that there are humans that see Wrathion in the same way and in the same context, since they don't change the subject.
    Wrathion then says "Complicated, indeed." which is a direct reference to romantic relationships with humans, which is the subject of the entire conversation.

    This is a simple conversation with a quite clear subject that anyone with reading comprehension in a high-school level can understand.
    Wrathion questions Kalecgos over his romantic relationship with a human and, when confronted by Kalecgos about having a human who is romantically interested about him, Wrathion doesn't deny it. On the contrary, he shares Kalecgos' opinion that romantic relationships with humans are complicated.

    There's nothing about banging Kalecgos in there.
    YOU re-read the conversation.

    The line you're interpreting as queer baiting has absolutely nothing to do with a relationship. It's Kalecgos commenting to Wrathion that he, like humans, is also fickle and holds great promise. You're the one that doesn't seem to have a high school level reading comprehension. You're clearly projecting here and looking for something to be mad about.

    Just because the initial conversation started with Wrathion commenting on Kalecgos's relationship, doesn't mean the rest of the conversation had the same context.

  19. #99
    Is OP for real? Like... really?

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Doesn't China play Overwatch?
    Show me the sexuality anyone is in-game that isn't straight.

    Also, note Tracer's story isn't accessible for China or Russia.

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