New Feature Idea: Guild Leagues

[Kokolums]

Guild Leagues

Your guild is assigned to a random league of 14 guilds. All guilds in the league will race each other to be the first to clear raid bosses and entire raids for each difficulty for each tier. Prizes are awarded for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishes. Completing each difficulty while being in the league also awards prizes.

The GOAL of this league is to foster a community feel. As such, there will be an observer mode available where people can watch. Rival league members can make attempts and see your progress in real time. There will be a league window that displays league records and best times. You will get an option for casual or elite leagues. Casual league will be for guilds that only want to clear heroic. Elite leagues will offer improved rewards and they will given for clearing mythic raids.

Guild rosters are LOCKED when your join a league. That means any encounters cleared with toons that joined the guild after the lock will not count toward league progress. So making sure you are covered with enough alts to tank, heal and dps is recommended before locking your roster.

You cannot leave a league once you join. You can have other toons in other guilds and those toons can be in other leagues. Again, league assignment is random so you cannot fill all 14 guilds in a league.

[Uko]

That sounds ripe for abuse and exploitation do not want. There are way too many negatives for what amounts to brownie points or bragging rights.

[arr0gance]

This already exists. It's called a realm. Also LMFAO at locking rosters in a Mythic guild. This idea is hilariously shitty.

[Kokolums]

That sounds ripe for abuse and exploitation do not want. There are way too many negatives for what amounts to brownie points or bragging rights.

abusers can get banned as normal. rules can be tighten to stop abusers. the goal is to create a stronger social experience.

[arr0gance]

abusers can get banned as normal. rules can be tighten to stop abusers. the goal is to create a stronger social experience.

Or you could stop trying to fix imaginary problems. Mythic raiding already sucks dick just trying to scrape up 20 human beings with a functioning brain power above that of your household toaster oven, this would just make it worse.

[Directionalk9]

abusers can get banned as normal. rules can be tighten to stop abusers. the goal is to create a stronger social experience.

I don’t think this is it mate.

[Logwyn]

Guild Leagues

Your guild is assigned to a random league of 14 guilds. All guilds in the league will race each other to be the first to clear raid bosses and entire raids for each difficulty for each tier. Prizes are awarded for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishes. Completing each difficulty while being in the league also awards prizes.

The GOAL of this league is to foster a community feel. As such, there will be an observer mode available where people can watch. Rival league members can make attempts and see your progress in real time. There will be a league window that displays league records and best times. You will get an option for casual or elite leagues. Casual league will be for guilds that only want to clear heroic. Elite leagues will offer improved rewards and they will given for clearing mythic raids.

Guild rosters are LOCKED when your join a league. That means any encounters cleared with toons that joined the guild after the lock will not count toward league progress. So making sure you are covered with enough alts to tank, heal and dps is recommended before locking your roster.

You cannot leave a league once you join. You can have other toons in other guilds and those toons can be in other leagues. Again, league assignment is random so you cannot fill all 14 guilds in a league.

Do guilds have a choice to be in a league or do you have to said you will join one? It would be funny if my bank guild got in with the top two guilds on my server and then with a bunch of other banks/inactive guilds. Hurray 3rd place for doing nothing!

[Mysterymask]

Guild Leagues
Guild rosters are LOCKED when your join a league. That means any encounters cleared with toons that joined the guild after the lock will not count toward league progress. So making sure you are covered with enough alts to tank, heal and dps is recommended before locking your roster.

Man it would suck when a group that was basically a group of friends in your guild all decide to leave at the same time and you basically can't recruit anymore

[Alvito]

This is a quadruple layer bad idea sandwich. It add red tape and restrictions needlessly, the reward couldn't be that great or people would sandbag in various ways to alter the outcome, it would seriously limit recruiting which is already one of the biggest issues with mythic raiding long term. Well we have found an exception to the "there is no bad ideas in brainstorming" line.

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abusers can get banned as normal. rules can be tighten to stop abusers. the goal is to create a stronger social experience.

So you create new limits on when and how people can join guilds to build a stronger experience, brilliant.

[Kokolums]

Man it would suck when a group that was basically a group of friends in your guild all decide to leave at the same time and you basically can't recruit anymore

you can recruit and do whatever you like. you just cant win the league to collect the rewards.

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Do guilds have a choice to be in a league or do you have to said you will join one? It would be funny if my bank guild got in with the top two guilds on my server and then with a bunch of other banks/inactive guilds. Hurray 3rd place for doing nothing!

obviously a guild would need to meet requirements to enter a league so bank guilds arent all over the place.

[Marrilaife]

Great idea... to kill raiding and discourage even more people from doing it.
- Can't join guilds mid-progression
- Can't recruit to guilds mid progression, your main tank got new job and can't play anymore? GG you're screwed
- People will feel more anxiety if they're forced to raid "in public" and be observed by others
- Guilds of vastly different speed of progress lumped together making it unfair competition like soccer match between Germany and San Marino
- more drama and animosity

Benefits? Literally none. This doesn't foster any "sense of community" just extra hostility against players who leave guilds, wanna swap guilds, quit or are in competing guilds (and 100% will shit talk the less progressed guilds, cuz internet).

We already had rewards like server first titles in wotlk and all it did was promote abuse.

We also have Hall of Fame and various cosmetic rewards for clearing mythic, yet mythic participation is dropping, especially on lower populated servers and faction.

OP probably never raided seriously, or just wants to fuck up raiders out of spite, since I know how many of his threads are about screwing people he perceives as "elitists" and basically trying to force people to play with whoever they don't want to play.

[Kokolums]

Man it would suck when a group that was basically a group of friends in your guild all decide to leave at the same time and you basically can't recruit anymore

you can recruit and clear raids. you just cant win rewards for placing 1st 2nd or 3rd in your league that tier.

[Mysterymask]

you can recruit and do whatever you like. you just cant win the league to collect the rewards.

EXACTLY...if you had a guild with the sole purpose of winning the league that situation basically screws you over completely until the next cycle where you are basically already behind

[Kokolums]

Great idea... to kill raiding and discourage even more people from doing it.
- Can't join guilds mid-progression
- Can't recruit to guilds mid progression, your main tank got new job and can't play anymore? GG you're screwed
- People will feel more anxiety if they're forced to raid "in public" and be observed by others
- Guilds of vastly different speed of progress lumped together making it unfair competition like soccer match between Germany and San Marino
- more drama and animosity

Benefits? Literally none. This doesn't foster any "sense of community" just extra hostility against players who leave guilds, wanna swap guilds, quit or are in competing guilds (and 100% will shit talk the less progressed guilds, cuz internet).

We already had rewards like server first titles in wotlk and all it did was promote abuse.

We also have Hall of Fame and various cosmetic rewards for clearing mythic, yet mythic participation is dropping, especially on lower populated servers and faction.

OP probably never raided seriously, or just wants to fuck up raiders out of spite, since I know how many of his threads are about screwing people he perceives as "elitists" and basically trying to force people to play with whoever they don't want to play.

you can recruit mid progression. you can still clear tiers, you just miss out on winning prizes for placing 1st 2nd or 3rd in your league.

[arr0gance]

you can recruit mid progression. you can still clear tiers, you just miss out on winning prizes for placing 1st 2nd or 3rd in your league.

So, literally the only purpose of your idea? Lol. Come on man.

[Kokolums]

EXACTLY...if you had a guild with the sole purpose of winning the league that situation basically screws you over completely until the next cycle where you are basically already behind

No because you join a new league every tier. Even if players are too late to join a league for the current tier, they'll want to join a good guild to gear up and be ready for the NEXT tier's leagues in a few months. If they sit out the current tier, their gear will suck and it just makes it harder for them to find a good guild for the next league.

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So, literally the only purpose of your idea? Lol. Come on man.

the purpose is to improve the social experience.

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Only an idiot is going to sit out an entire tier because they cant place in a mythic league because they wont be geared up for next tiers mythic league.

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Remember a guild can recruit extra tanks, extra healers extra dps before joining a league, and then use their bench accordingly.

[arr0gance]

Remember a guild can recruit extra tanks, extra healers extra dps before joining a league, and then use their bench accordingly.

Is this where you pretend there are infinite tanks, healers and DPS to choose from? Have you ever actually raided in your life?

[Logwyn]

I think this idea is DOA....

[Razion]

Sure would be fun to get randomized into a League containing a top 10 guild, losing out on the chance to win your league you would normally, and meanwhile your other friends' guild got randomly assigned into a league filled with nothing but bank guilds so they automatically win by doing literally any raiding at all.

Not only would there be no prestige for getting any of these wins because of the randomness of the quality of guilds you would be fighting, but there also would be a lot of negativity regarding just not being able to win against guilds that are leagues ahead of your own. This possibly also creates incentives to in-fight and harass or even sabotage other guilds that are supposed to even be within your own faction. Talk about a hot mess. Let's not and say we didn't.

[Kokolums]

I think this idea is DOA....

No I like it a lot!

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Sure would be fun to get randomized into a League containing a top 10 guild, losing out on the chance to win your league you would normally, and meanwhile your other friends' guild got randomly assigned into a league filled with nothing but bank guilds so they automatically win by doing literally any raiding at all.

Not only would there be no prestige for getting any of these wins because of the randomness of the quality of guilds you would be fighting, but there also would be a lot of negativity regarding just not being able to win against guilds that are leagues ahead of your own. This possibly also creates incentives to in-fight and harass or even sabotage other guilds that are supposed to even be within your own faction. Talk about a hot mess. Let's not and say we didn't.

There is quality if you select a mythic league. That would be filled with guilds that know they can complete mythic.