Do we know something about warmode in Shadowlands?
Will the alliance recieve +30% bonus during the whole expansion again?
Do we know something about warmode in Shadowlands?
Will the alliance recieve +30% bonus during the whole expansion again?
What is it with you opening bait thread after bait thread?
Probably given than most people interested in PvP play on the horde. But it is also possible that this bonus will balance itself better becasue the system will work from the start.
I just hope that they make the bonus server based, rather then region based, going into Shadowlands
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Failure warmode? Is this low tier bait or people are actually agaisnt one of the best features of BfA?
Well, as a system it's absolutly fine. But it has some serious flaws:
1) "The groupfinder issue" or "summoning stone issue". It's REALLY annoying when your group is full and you want to port the last slackers to the dungeon but, o well, you can't because you are in WM and the other groupmember who flew to the dungeon is not. Similar problem with raidgroups. Maybe put all members of the group be in the mode of the groupleader when they enter the group. Or mark groups in the groupfinder as WM/non WM
2) The fact, that you get higher PvE rewards if you enter WM. That's the elephant in the room: In WM you are not rewarded for doing PvP. Heck, you are even encouraged not to do PvP. Most people with WM on are not interested in PvP at all and just want higher rewards. In general it's more efficient to mind your own business and do your worldquests than to engange in a fight.There could be simple fixes:
Remove the flat 10-30% buff you get on gold/rep/azerite.
Reward players for killing other players with gold/rep/azerite. Think PvP expeditions, just in the open world. You get a stacking buff the longer you are active in WM (killing other players, finishing quests, etc..) and a player killing you gets a reward based on your buff. That way camping is discouraged, because you won't get rewards for killing someone over and over. Just one example you can take.
WM should be for PvP and not a toggle for higher PvE rewards.
Last edited by LordVargK; 2019-11-19 at 06:11 PM.
I hope WM stays. This has been the first expac in a while where there has been large scale World PvP in a long time. If it takes giving Ally +30% bonus. Welfare Epics, whatever. I dont care, lets keep it going.
WM was a much-needed improvement to the PVP system in WoW. WM should stay. In fact, it should be the baseline for all PVP experience going forward.
Regarding the specific +30% bonus, I think it's a fair bonus where the disparity warrants it. On servers Horde-dominated, the Alliance should be rewarded for genuine effort to participate in PVP. Otherwise, Alliance players continue to step further away from anything and all things PVP, which ends up killing PVP altogether.
Of course, servers are now cross-realm so it really doesn't matter. Nevertheless, if the sum of players is heavy Horde, then the Alliance should receive the bonus. And vice-versa.
It's a good system with opportunities for improvement.
Well, you're right. That would be the quite obvious solution for that, didn't think of it. But the problem persists in other open world groups too. The overhaul is really necessary. Again. But given that it took until Legion to give us a functioning version of the groupfinder, I would not bet on an overhaul in SL...
I was hoping War Mode was implemented as a means for cross-faction play in Shadowlands. That's not happening, so it's pointless. Might as well have kept world PVP the way it was, not like WM improved it.
Last edited by Mad_Murdock; 2019-11-19 at 06:24 PM.
I might honestly consider it a failure too, from my personal experience.
All my Alliance alts with WM on, who all went to the Horde heavy areas, ran into a handful of Horde players from level 20 to 100. It was first in Legion I saw Horde.
I remember the horde having a 10% bonus for the first 3 months of bfa, while the Alliance has 20-30% for 12 months up to now and more to come while being the more represented wm on faction since the introduction of wm bonus being higher than 10% for the "underrepresented faction".