Does anyone remember when Republicans said they didn't want Hillary because she was a warmonger? It seems those same false conservatives are now applauding Trump for dragging us into war and conflict.
Does anyone remember when Republicans said they didn't want Hillary because she was a warmonger? It seems those same false conservatives are now applauding Trump for dragging us into war and conflict.
This was probably the right decision. The US just needs to be careful about how it wants to guide the narrative. Objectively, this attack is pretty easy to justify - a general largely responsible for organizing Iranian subterfuge efforts against the US (resulting in many American deaths) was plotting new attacks with a terrorist leader in US-friendly territory. It's really pretty black and white. Yes, there are consequences to this action that attach some risk (namely that he's lauded by the Iranian population as a hero) but the Iranian government is already openly hostile to the US and the people of Iran have not been successful in changing that dynamic for the better.
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It remains to be seen whether these actions will lead to war. I doubt it. Conflict - yeah, sure. But the US needs to take some action when it's attacked, otherwise people will learn that their attacks will usually not be met with retaliation and Americans will start to die abroad. That's not a future I would be excited for.
https://twitter.com/PeterRNeumann/st...02629804929027
Others may have already pointed out, but just dropping this again as a reminder that Mike Pence either straight up lied - both about the number of 9/11 attackers and Iranian involvement - or Mike Pence is totally ignorant of well established facts relating to the 9/11 attacks.
I expect this from Trump. I don't expect this from Pence. He's a bootlicker for sure, but he's usually smart enough to keep himself out of this kind of trouble when defending Trump.
What are you rambling about? I am pointing out how stupid your premise is we killed their version of Mike Pence except he was popular (80%+ approval rating). Americans will die it's not if but when if it was like you said the Trump administration wouldn't be going defcon5 excepting an attack.
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Unlike Mike Pence though the guy was widely popular in Iran.
Attacking our Embassy was potentially an act of war. We killed the guy who ordered the attack. Of course Iran can choose to escalate, but their insane leaders don't need a reason to escalate in the first place.
And again - this will make military leaders rethink their orders.
I'm saying your example is irrelevant and your comparison between an attack on Mike Pence vs this makes no sense.
I suggest you educate yourself on exactly what happened before you respond to this post. Are you saying what if Mike Pence was a military officer and was killed while plotting against Iran near an Iran embassy ?
Kind of hard to say how popular he is in Iran when most Iranians aren't able to speak against their government as freely as Americans or they are too afraid to do so.
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I am stating his position within the Iranian government both Bush and Obama passed on killing him because of how popular and prominent he is in Iran. He's been a staple of Iranian politics for decades even his enemies respected him so they will respond your thinking is foolish.
it's not the only reason, but it is one of them. It's why we targeted who we did.
You're not thinking through this response very well. Immediately targeting and killing the guy who gave the order to attack a U.S. Embassy won't make military leaders rethink their decisions (I meant "orders" as in giving the order to attack - I didn't say that very clearly above though, my bad).
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/polit...ike/index.html
Why was Lindsey Graham seemingly the only member of Congress briefed on this strike beforehand? Simply because he was hanging out with Trump at Mar a Lago when the decision was made?
That Eric Trump tweet wasn't about the strike, it was about the arrival of marines at the embassy. It's a shame so many people fell for it (especially given that it was a snipped tweet that didn't show the time it was posted or the tweet quoted), especially folks who should know better like Seth Abramson.
Is that what happened? Did they just "hurl some bricks" at the Embassy? Or was it maybe more than that?
Jesus fuck, the accuracy of this place boggle[s] belief. You probably believe the inaccuracies you type too (am I doing that right? )
If you want to have an adult conversation about this, I'm all ears. But don't play childish games, we have enough people doing that already.
Good thing KKKillary Klinton wasn't elected President, we'd have wars like this all the time.
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Here's hoping Trump didn't just cause the spark that will lead to a war with Iran just because he wanted to bump up his poll numbers.
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Turns out Osama Bin Laden won after all. Close to two decades later and we are still fighting in the middle east.
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