Is Assassination Rogue a spec that scales well?

[Morween]

I hear all the time from forums, sub scales better that sin, other classes scale better than rogue.
What does it mean a class scales well, and how is sin rogue looking in 8.3, will we be a dead spec looking at warriors that scale so good?

[RobertoCarlos]

Ah yes. Did all 5 rogues left that actually play sub say that?

Assassin scales great on fights with cleave chance because crit works well with bleeds and seal fate. High crit makes the spec high damage because of all that energy coming in you can use to spam envenom. And the new raid is cleave heavy. Assassin will be fine if not good to great

[Varolyn]

Sin scales reasonably well, and is also great at boss damage, and as said above, 2-3 target cleave. It’s not a great parse padding spec, but is one of the best progression specs amongst melee.

And I’m not quite sure how well sub actually scales, but it’s so undertuned, along with being far too niche to even matter. It probably actually scales poorly, as the First Dance trait tanks the value of haste.

[Naiattavain]

specs dead jim.

[Ange]

Assassination is the progression spec, because its simply very easy to perform well. The small difference between active talents and passive talents is just icing on the cake.

It was the first choice even in LEGION when the other specs scaled MUCH BETTER, because it was just hard to fail as assassination.

Bleeds up? Used 2min CD? Used combo points? Welcome to orange logs as assassination. No other melee comes even close to this and with bleeds and energy pooling your uptime loss at movememt is the lowest from all melee specs.

Scaling did not matter at all for this spec in LEGION, it was allways the first choice for this simple reasons.

[RobertoCarlos]

Assassination is the progression spec, because its simply very easy to perform well. The small difference between active talents and passive talents is just icing on the cake.

It was the first choice even in LEGION when the other specs scaled MUCH BETTER, because it was just hard to fail as assassination.

Bleeds up? Used 2min CD? Used combo points? Welcome to orange logs as assassination. No other melee comes even close to this and with bleeds and energy pooling your uptime loss at movememt is the lowest from all melee specs.

Scaling did not matter at all for this spec in LEGION, it was allways the first choice for this simple reasons.

Assassin wasn't good in legion because it was simple to play. They were good because of fient, cheat death and vial. As well as good dps under 30% due to legendary bracer which was great for progression fights

[Ange]

@RobertoCarlos
Sub had its prime and still the amount of logs from assassination was more than 10:1 at some parts of legion. Thats the beauty of public logs, we can just scroll back the time frame and see how the majority of rogues went with the inferior spec.

Got some beautiful memory from the world-tour-raids with top ranked sub rogues getting outDPSed in speedruns by some random assassination rogues in subpar gear. Its allways sweet to see a braindead spec win per default as soon as you had bad procs or minor mistakes in a fight. Only blizzard knows why they make this tuning "mistake" so many times, but on the other side it is not that hard to guess why they do it.

[RobertoCarlos]

Speed runs or progression. Pick one.

[Volatilis]

@RobertoCarlos
Sub had its prime and still the amount of logs from assassination was more than 10:1 at some parts of legion. Thats the beauty of public logs, we can just scroll back the time frame and see how the majority of rogues went with the inferior spec.

Got some beautiful memory from the world-tour-raids with top ranked sub rogues getting outDPSed in speedruns by some random assassination rogues in subpar gear. Its allways sweet to see a braindead spec win per default as soon as you had bad procs or minor mistakes in a fight. Only blizzard knows why they make this tuning "mistake" so many times, but on the other side it is not that hard to guess why they do it.

So you're saying outlaw and sub are so much harder to play that all the skilled players make mistakes and brain dead assassin creeps ahead because of 0 mistakes from playerbase?

Oooook. Someone hasnt heard of muscle memory. Most top players can play any class rotation in their sleep.

[Ange]

You dont have to be mad at me, the numbers are there, people choose not the dominant spec, they choose the easiest one.

Btw you dont need much muscle memory when you have lots of waiting times. If you think assassination LEGION had anything to do, just sort the APM simDPS list and you will be shocked - since you clearly dont know, how AFK assassination was played.

[RobertoCarlos]

Can you make up your mind what you're even trying to say. If it was that assassin was popular and peopled played it then yea I'd agree.

Legion was a mess for spec diversity because of time commitments to legendary farming an AP gains.

Most rogues going for progression went outlaw for emerald which was promptly nerfed so they switched to assassin and spent most the expansion as assassin until the end where sub started to take over and people had collected thier legendaries by then so switching wasn't such a big deal