Originally Posted by
Dellis0991
I'm about to put a end to this shit right now!......
Originally Posted by
Dellis0991
Originally Posted by
Dellis0991
ELVES ARE TROLLS WITH FACE LIFTS!!!
Erect posture
5 digit hands and toes
Capable of full beards and lots of hair
Fangs instead of tusks
Eyes that glow (silver, amber, blue or green [fel and emerald], purple]
Higher magical aptitude and intelligence.
Lists goes on.
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Originally Posted by
sillag
exactly dude see you're getting it
Originally Posted by
sillag
the highborne had made their capitalist empire and destroyed the world, and when the night elves decided maybe they'd try a world without the aristocracy and see what that looked like, the aristocracy couldnt take the idea of being equal to the proletariat and got themselves exiled, whereupon they painstakingly recreated the exact same society that destroyed the world and, surprising no one, fell into decline and birthed a few of history's greatest tyrants along the way
1. That's NOT how it happened. They didn't go.. "oh we'll try a world without the aristocracy" - there were many highborne amongst other castes in the retreat to Hyjal. The complete shif twas a result of needing to ban arcane magic to prevent the legion returning.
Without arcane magic and the existential and real threat of the Legion, the ability and desire to rebuild cities, focus on life as before and all the things that had been a part of their existence all had to go.
They became for that period, martial hutners and defenders, guarding the secret of the Well of Eternity atop the mountain, and hunting all renegade and rogue demon magic users who might once more bring the threat of the legion.
Once the vigil ended after WC3 final battle, once again we see they come out of isolation and Guardian/Hunter role , start building cities, start using their magic again, reconcile with their estranged aristocratic caste.
2.[On the high elf progenitors]
They were NOT a large group of highborne chaffing at the idea of equality... the character of Darth'remar proves this. The sunstrider highborne did not behave liek the worse of the hgihborne we read about in WotA, or see of the elites in Suramar. So obviously that is not true.
The disagreement came upon using magic again. 3k years was enough time to mourn and recover/shed addiction, but going wihtout hteir most powerful tool indefinitely if ways could be found to use it without alerting the legion, was considered by them to be an absolute necessity. Life had to be more than... this, could be, not to mention with hindsight of addiction and the legion in mind, Darth'remar believed the elves could do a better job this time round.
Malfurion disagreed, the risk of slipping up, too great, and failure meant the end of the world, he attributed such high risk as reckless inclinations borne out of addiction pangs. Darth and his group tried to force the issue with a demsontration, but 3,000 years out of practice showed as the storm went horribly wrong, killing a lot of people, and resulting in the exile.
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They did NOT try to paistakingly recreat the Exact same society. THat is completely wrong. By the end of the exile the y hated so much about the kaldorei, they wanted a much better civilizaton, were all magic would be freely and responsibly wielded, not jsut nature and divine ones, but obviously arcane. Where they would be the custodians doing everything in their power to prevent the legion's return.
The society they created is not at all like the kaldorei pre-sundeirng one. Quel'thalas civilizaiton may not be as magically advanced as Suramar, but it was far supeiror. THe attitude of the high elves, was much better, their society far freer, happier, more egalistarian (they were all or mostly all from highborne stock). They wanted to achieve better and great things than the Kaldorei had ever done. Be wiser, smarter, without the chronic mistake of Queen Azshara.
In many ways they succeeded, but by the time they meet up with pre-sundering kaldorei civilziation, like Suramar, they have still not reached the level of advancement the pre-sundering kaldorei civilziation had.
Who knows, in time, with more peace and less wars they may have. Might have done sooner if it wasn't for all the troll wars, and then the humans leading the legion back.
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Suramar and Eldre'thalas are the ones that continue in the pre-sundering civilization of the night elves. The High elves create a new civilization, a brighter, day based, new life, new role, new me sortof thing.
They are NOT the same, jsut because they both use arcane magic alot.. sheesh.