Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[markos82]

Cases means fuck all when most are recovering. Go back to worshiping your communist countries. Hehe

ONLY 580 DEATHS LITTLE EUROPEANS

How mentally retarded you have to be by gloating over the number of dead people. Some people are just sick...

[Yadryonych]

I wonder if it is possible to run this thread without people blaming their own incompetence on china

[Trunksee]

Feel free to join the Coronavirus parties that are being held in Kentucky it seems. Also the problem is not you getting but passing it on to everyone else since we don't know how long it will take to clear your system after you feel better.

The state health advisor in my state is basically saying 24 hours symptom free with any sickness you have your safe to go back to daily life. It was a serious question though. Id rather take my chances with it and get through it than continue to worry about catching it and not knowing it.

[markos82]

Wish he remained in that thread... Some good news: Virus hardly mutates at all.. which.. once a vaccines has come out is good news.

Flu virus mutates fast. That is the reason why there is no 100% cure for it.

[Acidbaron]

I have to ask a serious question. Has anyone else thought about intentionally catching this? I mean I am 36 healthy no health issues. I kind of want to just get it over with so that I can feel comfortable going to see certain people we are avoiding. Also if the government knows about it after 2 weeks off it kind of takes you off the list to be quarantined anymore once the 2 weeks are over.

The disease has the possibility of making your anti bodies go haywire and killing you in the process.
Your current healthy condition is no guarantee.

you won't need hospitalization.

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The state health advisor in my state is basically saying 24 hours symptom free with any sickness you have your safe to go back to daily life. It was a serious question though. Id rather take my chances with it and get through it than continue to worry about catching it and not knowing it.

The State health advisor is a moron, it can take up to 15 days for you to actually become sick or show symptoms.

There is also no proof that once you had it you can't get sick from it again.

[Draco-Onis]

The state health advisor in my state is basically saying 24 hours symptom free with any sickness you have your safe to go back to daily life. It was a serious question though. Id rather take my chances with it and get through it than continue to worry about catching it and not knowing it.

The virus can stay without making you sick while still infectious for 14-15 days without you showing any symptoms your state advisor needs to be fired.

[Katchii]

Flu virus mutates fast. That is the reason why there is no 100% cure for it.

We're not talking about the flu....

[Acidbaron]

738 deaths in Spain over 24 hours, in case people are wondering how bad things can get. Also an increase of 8000 infections.

A warning for nations and citizens who think this will just blow over and won't get bad. According to the timeline what week is Spain in now? The third?

[jonnysensible]

738 deaths in Spain over 24 hours, in case people are wondering how bad things can get. Also an increase of 8000 infections.

A warning for nations and citizens who think this will just blow over and won't get bad. According to the timeline what week is Spain in now? The third?

not weeks but since the 100 death..

[Belize]

How mentally retarded you have to be by gloating over the number of dead people. Some people are just sick...

This is the guy that has created 100s of accounts.

I don't think that the possibility of mental illness was ever in question.

[Skroe]

I have to ask a serious question. Has anyone else thought about intentionally catching this? I mean I am 36 healthy no health issues. I kind of want to just get it over with so that I can feel comfortable going to see certain people we are avoiding. Also if the government knows about it after 2 weeks off it kind of takes you off the list to be quarantined anymore once the 2 weeks are over.

You'd be playing Russian roulette with how your body handles it. As a 36 year old, your chances of not getting too sick are good. But if you do get sick, you'll be in a lot of trouble. And yes, it had made people in their 20s and 30s in perfect health and good physical condition have to go on ventilators.

And moreover intentional infection would just swamp a medical system already on the brink of being overwhelmed.

[jonnysensible]

I have to ask a serious question. Has anyone else thought about intentionally catching this? I mean I am 36 healthy no health issues. I kind of want to just get it over with so that I can feel comfortable going to see certain people we are avoiding. Also if the government knows about it after 2 weeks off it kind of takes you off the list to be quarantined anymore once the 2 weeks are over.

its a bad idea. if you were going to do something dumb like this it would have been better to do it at the start of the outbreak. You are hitting peak time so if you get it now and it goes bad you will be fucked as the health services get owned.

[Skroe]

not weeks but since the 100 death..

China's numbers stink to high heaven as always.

Not in the least, kind of odd it got to 80k and stopped dead in it's tracks.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/chi...oo-51581622840

Statisticians call bullshit.

In terms of the virus data, the number of cumulative deaths reported is described by a simple mathematical formula to a very high accuracy, according to a quantitative-finance specialist who ran a regression of the data for Barron’s. A near-perfect 99.99% of variance is explained by the equation, this person said.

Put in an investing context, that variance, or so-called r-squared value, would mean that an investor could predict tomorrow’s stock price with almost perfect accuracy. In this case, the high r-squared means there is essentially zero unexpected variability in reported cases day after day.

Barron’s re-created the regression analysis of total deaths caused by the virus, which first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan at the end of last year, and found similarly high variance. We ran it by Melody Goodman, associate professor of biostatistics at New York University’s School of Global Public Health.

“I have never in my years seen an r-squared of 0.99,” Goodman says. “As a statistician, it makes me question the data.”

Real human data are never perfectly predictive when it comes to something like an epidemic, Goodman says, since there are countless ways that a person could come into contact with the virus.

For context, Goodman says a “really good” r-squared, in terms of public health data, would be a 0.7. “Anything like 0.99,” she said, “would make me think that someone is simulating data. It would mean you already know what is going to happen.”

Not saying it's 5 million or anything like that. But there is zero chance the world's largest country by population stopped dead in its tracks healthily short of six-digit cases. Especially when this entire thing started with them silencing scientists and doctors.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/90048...esidents-claim

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Called it.

I guess there actually IS Coronavirus in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

[shadowmouse]

We would not be here if China was an accountable democracy that could not have suppressed information of the outbreak before it became a pandemic.

As I observed early on, the US could not even track flu. Predictably they haven't been 100% able to track COVID-19 either, and that is after having time to prepare once data started to hit from countries outside of China.

I find it fascinating that people somehow think that China's screw ups mean there would have been any different result with complete transparency. Like it or not, had China told the Chinese "ZOMG, by March we're going to have a pandemic and it will be something like SARS" there would have been a panic. There were questions about human to human transmission at first, and Chinese warnings that it looked like the virus could spread before someone displayed symptoms were largely ignored. If I recall, some said that this was a falsehood being spread by China to game the virus numbers.

By the time this was showing up in hospitals, what we are seeing outside of China suggests that there were already multiple cases that were less severe, but still capable of transmitting the virus. Wuhan has lots of universities with foreign students, and if they follow the pattern of Beijing's foreign students some of them went home for Christmas and/or New Year.

Taking into account where we are today, and what was done in the run up, realistically what additional safety would this "transparency" have added? It was seen as a Chinese problem, and outside of China people would have been happy to watch the Chinese decimated. Several posters here would have been cheering. Face it, if China had screamed bloody murder, panicked the population, and instantly locked everything down, those outside of China would have jumped all over the story as proof that China is authoritarian and making up an emergency to shore up Xi while disrupting the HK protests. That was, by the way, one of the early takes on it.

[Trassk]

738 deaths in Spain over 24 hours, in case people are wondering how bad things can get. Also an increase of 8000 infections.

A warning for nations and citizens who think this will just blow over and won't get bad. According to the timeline what week is Spain in now? The third?

My close family luckily is taking this serious. Sadly members of my extended family (aunts and uncles) don't know how to knuckle down and remain at home

[Tuor]

https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-...f-41bea055720b
Not even a full article...

[Yadryonych]

not weeks but since the 100 death..

It is remarkable how almost every nation managed to bend the curve to descending rate but usa keeps rallying it like a NASCAR. Real team America spirit in this one

[Trunksee]

The disease has the possibility of making your anti bodies go haywire and killing you in the process.
Your current healthy condition is no guarantee.

you won't need hospitalization.

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The State health advisor is a moron, it can take up to 15 days for you to actually become sick or show symptoms.

There is also no proof that once you had it you can't get sick from it again.

They are saying after symptoms subside they are calling you recovered. Figured I would clear that up

[Acidbaron]

They are saying after symptoms subside they are calling you recovered. Figured I would clear that up

None of that contradicts what i wrote.

[Trunksee]

None of that contradicts what i wrote.

Sick of living in fear and being told to confine. Im more than willing to risk it at this point. And btw New York is now saying hospitalizations are coming down. So that huge beg for ventilators is starting to sound like a hording situation by Cuomo. Make sure he gets them first so he doesn't have to compete with other states.