We (new zealand) are sadly going back into lock down after 2 months of relative normality
Pretty much from people not doing quarantine properly and skipping it completely when flying into the country.
We (new zealand) are sadly going back into lock down after 2 months of relative normality
Pretty much from people not doing quarantine properly and skipping it completely when flying into the country.
Comes a time when we all gotta die...even kings.
Fair enough, although that was more because they failed to make the IPV properly than because of a flaw with the IPV itself.
Live-attenuated virus vaccines pretty much always produce a stronger immune response, though I suppose this point is also fair. OPV continues to be used today, however, long after that benefit would be called for.
But again, that was during the development of the vaccine, prior to its approval, and related to the OPV, not the IPV.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
Why no way, there is certainly a "way", they have the capabilities for it - there are many brilliant scientists and researchers and they do have the equipment and $$ for this one.
I am pretty certain that it's at least half-true. For one you can be sure they made a considerable effort at it, as every nation with any sort of decent research capability and it's quite probable they at least were on to something.
The problem, most likely, is in testing, reliability and maybe safety. Even besides that, it could work, but require multiple applications to take effect or simply not always produce the desired effect.
I mean there is a chance there is no problem at all too, let's not all be hasty there - that's why the thing will need to be scrutinized before you can just wave it off as another doze of Russian bullshit.
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So let's talk about--
-- Dr. FauciI hope that the Russians have actually, definitively proven that the vaccine is safe and effective. I seriously doubt that they've done that
Nevermind. Moving on.
I'm not sure why you think you should be flattered, or why there's credit to be had in a hypothesis that was so obviously false to begin with. Nor can you even take credit for being the one to prove that it's obviously false, because you've been fighting tooth and nail to resist that fact.
Funny that you somehow believe I've explained anything other than why it's wrong.
Your apparent lack of being able to comprehend the difference between "figurative" vs. "literal" aside, I don't need to do a thing to prove that the obviously false hypothesis is obviously false.
I really don't know why you keep thinking that you're scoring points here. Do you really think that simple math is beyond me? No, the problem is that you are incapable of seeing any kind of bigger picture. To you it's just "today is smaller than yesterday so we must have peaked!"
First it was "which is bigger, 260083 or 254176?" Then it was "which is bigger, 260083 or 255621?" After yesterday, and just as I predicted, it was "which is bigger, 260283 or 258021?" So far today, we're 10k cases up from last Tuesday, which means we're now at "which is bigger, 260283 or 259408?"
That's right, the 6k decrease that you hailed as proof that the world has peaked is now down to 875. As far as the question goes, well, I'm patient. I don't need to be proved right today in order to trust in logic and reason over emotions.
Dictionaries aren't in the habit of giving figurative meanings, only literal ones. I'm not sure why you think they would, but then again, you don't seem to understand the difference between the two. FYI, both the Oxford and Cambridge dictionaries have entries for "figuratively" that you might want to read.
By way of an example, if a soccer (football) team is down 10-0 with 5 minutes left in regulation, someone might say the game is over. Pretty much everyone listening would understand that said person was speaking figuratively, because it's blatantly obvious that the game isn't literally over. You'd be that one, sad person who incorrectly decides, without anything resembling reason, that the speaker must have been speaking literally. Congratulations.
And yet... still not a fact. Also, the high mark is now on July 31st, and today was only 875 (0.3%) lower. What will the next few days bring, I wonder?
There are almost certainly far more than 10 million people who have already been infected in the US. But even if we're talking about just the confirmed cases, you honestly think that the US is already halfway done with COVID? That's a bold and also very likely false prediction.
You still have yet to prove the "misery and poverty" you're bemoaning. And most non-sociopaths would favor lives over economy.
And yet there's no guarantee they can't get sick again, there's no guarantee they can't be carriers, and per your earlier comment, there's honestly no guarantee they all were actually infected to begin with. The number of recovered will be a factor in future decisions, I'm sure, but at 1% of the population, it's far from the largest concern.
Of course it would be. I can't wait 'til we're all past this. But I'm not going to lie to myself in an attempt to feel better, because it's counterproductive. And frankly I'm not particularly keen on other people lying about what is "truth" and "fact", either.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
"Life is one long series of problems to solve. The more you solve, the better a man you become.... Tribulations spawn in life and over and over again we must stand our ground and face them."
So now there are people talking about possibly being fined or jailed, if states so choose, for refusing a covid vaccine. Honestly though, I wonder how much ground they have to try to impose an untested and untried vaccine on the masses. I am seeing this pop up more and more all over. Though I don't believe a viable vaccine will come for years.
This pandemic is bringing out all kinds of legal things no one knew existed.
Saw that. Go over 100 days with no cases and then suddenly it reappears. Shows how nasty this thing really is.
As for the Russian vaccine, yeah, count me as dubious. After all they were just busted trying to hack the work others were doing on vaccines, which is not the actions of those who believe they have a viable vaccine almost ready to go. Not unless they are just habitual hackers.
Rushing a vaccine is the last thing we need to do. If there are side effects then it is just going to play into the hands of the rabid anti-vaxxers, who are really amping up with this whole covid thing. Seems they prefer hundreds of thousands of people dying a year than a cure. But then again a working vaccine that eliminates this thing is an existential threat to their belief system. Very few people are alive who have seen first hand just how effective vaccines are in eliminating threats, like small pox. Having one actually play out before people's eyes will hopefully be enough to stamp out this nonsense.
But then again, the hardcore anti-vaxxers have drunk so much cool-aid that there isn't much that will get through to them anymore.
The problem is that Russia is completely run by a competent and intelligent version of Trump, which means that the lies and maristroika are actually good/great. Russia has been pushing out lies regarding their technological progress for decades, with little to no actual results or proof. Given that track record, their claim to having a viable vaccine, ahead of every other developed nation, shouldn't even be taken with a grain of salt. It's borderline ridiculous.
While your point about there being "a chance there is no problem" is scientifically valid, there is the same percentage of chance that I'll win the lottery tonight.
So Russia is "hacking" for a vaccine they worked for years to develop...hacking others that have been at it a month or two? Lol?
And you think they'll randomly combine shit like mad scientist because that fits ur unscientific shitty tabloidesque current media?
You are all free to skip vaccine n enjoy the virus due to ur phobias.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...l-coronavirus/
Jesus christ Georgia is a fucking mess.
Which fact? That no country except one outlier could reach 3% cases? You were wrong BTW when you were talking about passage of time a few posts back; it's testing coverage that matters, not time itself.
So you can't. Which means my 3% conjecture remains correct.
Infected and sick are different things. INB4 you tell me that word "asymptomatic" figuratively means "sick"
CAN ANY ENGLISH SPEAKER READING THIS WEIGH IN PLEASE?
Nearly a week ago I made a post saying "It seems the world as a whole has peaked" (see picture below, peak highlighted). PhaelixWW here keeps repeating, day after day, that "has peaked" figuratively means "it's over" and that dictionaries are not to be trusted. Does this look like it's over to you? How can a pandemic at its peak be over?
I think PhaelixWW is wrong about what the English word "peak" means. Confirm/deny?
With data going thru HHS (conveniently the number of new cases in the US went down or stable on the very day they too over), not CDC. Nothing strange at all.