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    Allied Races made faction imbalance even worse.

    I was looking out of curiosity at the mecha gnome numbers lately and was shocked about the overall numbers of allied races. I was guessing it was bad but not in that margin.

    Zandalari Troll 5504 19,4 H
    Void Elf 5089 17,9 A
    Nightborne 3895 13,7 H
    Vulpera 3686 13,0 H
    Mag'thar Orc 3164 11,2 H
    HighMountain Tauren 1913 6,7 H
    Dark Iron 1833 6,5 A
    Lightforged Draenei 1832 6,5 A
    Kul Tiran 847 3,0 A
    Mechagnome 591 2,1 A


    (23.Jan.2020 Src: Warcraftrealms)
    Only 31.7% of all allied races characters are Alliance. Given that the numbers of warcraftrealms aren't complete but the margin is big enough to see a strong trend here.
    The only Alliance allied being able to compete are void elves. The rest is played less than the least played horde allied race (Lightforged and Darkiron are close but still less). Mechagnomes and Kul Tiran are over 6 times less played than their counterparts with Vulpera and Zandalari. (Who would have guessed )
    Zandalari alone are more than Lightforged, Darkiron, Kultirans and Mechagnomes combined (19,4% vs 18,1%)

    This is what happens when you give one side races that they wanted and the other one ones that they never asked for.

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    allied race should never have been implemented.
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    Whether the numbers illustrate people moving to a different faction and causing further faction imbalance, or simply players moving around within their faction, can't be concluded from this data alone, but it certainly seems to suggest as such.

    Either way the numbers definitely show Alliance got pretty shafted on most Allied Race tradeoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plehnard View Post
    I was looking out of curiosity at the mecha gnome numbers lately and was shocked about the overall numbers of allied races. I was guessing it was bad but not in that margin.

    Zandalari Troll 5504 19,4 H
    Void Elf 5089 17,9 A
    Nightborne 3895 13,7 H
    Vulpera 3686 13,0 H
    Mag'thar Orc 3164 11,2 H
    HighMountain Tauren 1913 6,7 H
    Dark Iron 1833 6,5 A
    Lightforged Draenei 1832 6,5 A
    Kul Tiran 847 3,0 A
    Mechagnome 591 2,1 A


    (23.Jan.2020 Src: Warcraftrealms)
    Only 31.7% of all allied races characters are Alliance. Given that the numbers of warcraftrealms aren't complete but the margin is big enough to see a strong trend here.
    The only Alliance allied being able to compete are void elves. The rest is played less than the least played horde allied race (Lightforged and Darkiron are close but still less). Mechagnomes and Kul Tiran are over 6 times less played than their counterparts with Vulpera and Zandalari. (Who would have guessed )
    Zandalari alone are more than Lightforged, Darkiron, Kultirans and Mechagnomes combined (19,4% vs 18,1%)

    This is what happens when you give one side races that they wanted and the other one ones that they never asked for.
    Yeah not really surprisingly in the least. All but one Alliance allied race was the lesser option.

    High Elves? Nope, Void. Yeah Void is a high number, would have been higher.
    Broken? Nope, lightforged.
    Vrykul? Nope, fat humans.
    Mechagnomes? Nope, trash gnomes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    allied race should never have been implemented.
    It did work, it just only worked for on faction and there's no reason for it since the options people would have wanted are clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leih View Post
    Whether the numbers illustrate people moving to a different faction and causing further faction imbalance, or simply players moving around within their faction, can't be concluded from this data alone, but it certainly seems to suggest as such.

    Either way the numbers definitely show Alliance got pretty shafted on most Allied Race tradeoffs.
    As far as I remember the horde vs alliance ratio was 52:48 at the start of bfa, it's 57:43 now. Sadly their old database crashed last year so it's hard to directly compare those numbers.

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    Vulpera so high in the list? Oh no.

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    Question: How many players are behind that characters?

    I have at least one character of each race, only exception are mechagnomes. But that's only because I haven't done the quest yet.
    I am playing on a realm combined from two servers, so I have alliance on one and Horde on the other server. And I am active on both. So how is that considered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    allied race should never have been implemented.
    Why? the more races we can play, the better. Warcraft is a rich universe and races are there... why not have them involved? provide one single valid argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuja View Post
    Vulpera so high in the list? Oh no.
    Considering how fast their numbers rise it's quite possible that they'll get to lead that list soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naramag View Post
    Question: How many players are behind that characters?

    I have at least one character of each race, only exception are mechagnomes. But that's only because I haven't done the quest yet.
    I am playing on a realm combined from two servers, so I have alliance on one and Horde on the other server. And I am active on both. So how is that considered?
    It's probably fair to consider that both sides have on average the same rate of alts they play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Vrykul? Nope, fat humans.
    As opposed to Vrykul, who are just tall humans.

    And even then they would have to be scaled down so much to fit in the Alliance architecture that they would really just be beardy humans.

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    i find it hard to believe people change factions SIMPLY because of race...

    most people change factions because
    "hey all my friends are doing this"
    "Hey the raiding guild I applied to is the opposite faction"
    "Hey I hear the horde is a bit better on X server than the alliance is on My server"
    or if MMO champ is to be believed "The X suck at Y so I should be a Z"

    Allied races aren't exactly the MAIN reason..its more hey look there's something else I can change to. Especially since Blood Elves, Night Elves, and Humans are still the 3 most popular races

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    So Alliance have the second most popular allied race, a fair margin ahead of the 3rd most popular and only 1.5% behind the most popular.

    I swear alliance will cry victim about anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWarlock View Post
    So Alliance have the second most popular allied race, a fair margin ahead of the 3rd most popular and only 1.5% behind the most popular.

    I swear alliance will cry victim about anything.
    What? Did you not actually read it? The OP does state “ Only 31.7% of all allied races characters are Alliance.” How about looking at the whole thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soikona View Post
    What? Did you not actually read it?
    Sure did, and the stats quite clearly state Alliance have the 2nd most popular allied race, acting like Alliance are hard done by

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWarlock View Post
    Sure did, and the stats quite clearly state Alliance have the 2nd most popular allied race, acting like Alliance are hard done by
    But it’s only 32%. Do you not understand 32% is substantially less than half?

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    It's really unsurprising that Alliance keeps getting barely different options or ones that NO one by and large wants to play. Sure, I'm glad we have fat humans but was there really a need to make mechagnomes a race in and of itself? Lightforged? Void Elves I can understand because they're Alliance, so they have some justification there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post

    High Elves? Nope, Void. Yeah Void is a high number, would have been higher.
    Broken? Nope, lightforged.
    Vrykul? Nope, fat humans.
    Mechagnomes? Nope, trash gnomes.

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    Number one, faction imbalance isn't really an issue. There's a bit more horde players, but as someone who plays Alliance I can assure you that there's no problem in finding groups, guilds etc. as an Alliance player.

    Number two, just because someone has an allied race on the horde side does not mean they main a horde character. Many people treat allied races as achievements to get (like me) and just level them for the sake of the mount and heritage armor, not to actually main/play them.

    Number three, just because Alliance players don't create as many allied race toons does not mean this somehow contributes to faction imbalance, because the same number of people are playing anyway. If anything, this could confirm, once again, that Alliance is the faction with more casual players, who don't really play alts, or max out characters just for the sake of an achievement in their achievement menu.

    The whole argument is flawed, because Allied races require you to have a maxed main toon with requirements done. This means that they do not contribute to faction imbalance at all. You could argue that maybe people are returning to the game specifically for the reason of playing a Horde allied race (which you aren't doing here) which is a hypothesis that everyone is allowed to make, but we have no real way of verifying this. Just sheer numbers of created allied race toons have absolutely nothing to do with increasing the faction imbalance.

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    I'm surprised at the kul Tiran statistics, but then maybe not when looking at the void elves and given the blood elf population, just shows how many players here want to play a skinny twink or highschool girl, even if they have purple skin.

    Zandalari numbers though make me happy given how ripped they are, and just hope vulpera population grows, so dam cute!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I'm surprised at the kul Tiran statistics, but then maybe not when looking at the void elves and given the blood elf population, just shows how many players here want to play a skinny twink or highschool girl, even if they have purple skin.

    Zandalari numbers though make me happy given how ripped they are, and just hope vulpera population grows, so dam cute!
    It's not surprising people want to avoid fat characters. Big difference between a nice buff dude and a fat man. It's good that they are an option though, but highly unsurprising not many people play them.

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