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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    So CNN is far left according to you ? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/ Or it is just left just as washington examiner and american spectator are just right ?

    But ok lets look at sources mentioned by Examiner and Spectator, okay ? Here they are :


    Washington Post did report on his praise of communism regime https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b57222e0f899

    Nymag did report on his love for commies who were supported by Soviets and enemies of USA https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...t-problem.html

    So did Daily Beast https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-b...erica-a-lesson

    Are WP, Nymag and Daily Beast far right too ? Lets look what your mediabiasfactcheck thinks, ok ?

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ left-center
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-magazine/ left (or far left if you prefer)
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-beast/ left (far left for you)

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    See above. Are Washington Post, Nymag and Daily Baest far right just because they report something about Bernie that you dont like ?


    How is praising communists and joining Marxist-Leninist party being "moderate" ?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-i...ers?ref=scroll
    Yes CNN would be far left. Not sure why you think that was a gotcha. I don't even watch CNN.


    I like how you focus on the bias part and not how factual their reporting is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Yes CNN would be far left. Not sure why you think that was a gotcha. I don't even watch CNN.


    I like how you focus on the bias part and not how factual their reporting is.
    I was just making a point that neither CNN, Examiner or Spectator are "far" anything (which your link clearly shows but you chose to ignore it for some reason).

    Second point was that my """far right website""" use left sites as source so it is not misrepresenting/lying either. Unless you believe in some conspiracy theory that both big left wing and right wing media want Sanders destroyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    I was just making a point that neither CNN, Examiner or Spectator are "far" anything (which your link clearly shows but you chose to ignore it for some reason).

    Second point was that my """far right website""" use left sites as source so it is not misrepresenting/lying either. Unless you believe in some conspiracy theory that both big left wing and right wing media want Sanders destroyed
    No one is arguing whether he said/did those things. We are arguing that it doesn't make him a communist himself. Not sure why this is hard for you to grasp.

    By your logic I can point to any Trump supporter and call them racist because they support Trump who is a known racist.
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    Huh, sanders already lost my vote with his moronic energy policy, but this definitely adds to the "hey, maybe we shouldn't put the demagogue with the religiously fervent followers into the white house" pile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Yeah, it means they're probably a bigot whose chief objection to Trump is that he's rude.

    Why y'all trying to make a virtue out of not thinking critically?
    Social-conservative left-economics (or at least non-liberal economics) is well-known to be a thing within Republican voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    No one is arguing whether he said/did those things. We are arguing that it doesn't make him a communist himself. Not sure why this is hard for you to grasp.

    By your logic I can point to any Trump supporter and call them racist because they support Trump who is a known racist.
    In fact, it only makes him a far better person in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    Huh, sanders already lost my vote with his moronic energy policy, but this definitely adds to the "hey, maybe we shouldn't put the demagogue with the religiously fervent followers into the white house" pile.
    I think everybody already somebody as conservative as you would not vote for the centre-left candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    No one is arguing whether he said/did those things. We are arguing that it doesn't make him a communist himself. Not sure why this is hard for you to grasp.

    By your logic I can point to any Trump supporter and call them racist because they support Trump who is a known racist.
    By your logic if someone praises nazi regime, supports it and joins national socialist party it does not make him a nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    In fact, it only makes him a far better person in my eyes.

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    I think everybody already somebody as conservative as you would not vote for the centre-left candidate.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bl...k_of_Communism

    Also he is far left, not centre-left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    By your logic if someone praises nazi regime, supports it and joins national socialist party it does not make him a nazi.
    Which communist regime did Bernie supposedly join? Cause last I check the US government isn't a communist regime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Which communist regime did Bernie supposedly join? Cause last I check the US government isn't a communist regime.
    I said party, not regime. He just praised commie regime.


    "Virtually all Americans—Democrats, Republicans and independents—united in support of the hostages and the international call for their freedom. One prominent political figure on the 2020 stage, then almost completely unknown, stood apart by joining a Marxist-Leninist party that not only pledged support for the Iranian theocracy, but also justified the hostage taking by insisting the hostages were all likely CIA agents. Who was that person? It was Bernie Sanders. "

    "In 1977, he left the tiny left-wing Liberty Union Party of Vermont that he’d co-founded, and in 1980 instead aligned himself with the Socialist Workers Party (SWP), the self-proclaimed Trotskyist revolutionary party, became its presidential elector in Vermont, and campaigned for its candidates and platform that defended the Iranian hostage seizure. "

    source : https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-i...ers?ref=scroll

    What is Socialist Workers Party (SWP) ?

    The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is known as a communist party in the United States. Originally a group in the Communist Party USA that supported Leon Trotsky against Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, it places a priority on "solidarity work" to aid strikes and is strongly supportive of Cuba.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...United_States)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    By your logic if someone praises nazi regime, supports it and joins national socialist party it does not make him a nazi.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bl...k_of_Communism

    Also he is far left, not centre-left.
    Everybody left of the Clintons is far left to the far right, nothing new here.


    Again, I wish he was, but none of the policies he supports are actually far left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    I said party, not regime. He just praised commie regime.


    "Virtually all Americans—Democrats, Republicans and independents—united in support of the hostages and the international call for their freedom. One prominent political figure on the 2020 stage, then almost completely unknown, stood apart by joining a Marxist-Leninist party that not only pledged support for the Iranian theocracy, but also justified the hostage taking by insisting the hostages were all likely CIA agents. Who was that person? It was Bernie Sanders. "

    "In 1977, he left the tiny left-wing Liberty Union Party of Vermont that he’d co-founded, and in 1980 instead aligned himself with the Socialist Workers Party (SWP), the self-proclaimed Trotskyist revolutionary party, became its presidential elector in Vermont, and campaigned for its candidates and platform that defended the Iranian hostage seizure. "

    source : https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-i...ers?ref=scroll

    What is Socialist Workers Party (SWP) ?

    The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is known as a communist party in the United States. Originally a group in the Communist Party USA that supported Leon Trotsky against Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, it places a priority on "solidarity work" to aid strikes and is strongly supportive of Cuba.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...United_States)

    Since you reminded me in another post. Thats the best you got? He served 1 year as an elector in that party. Such communist.... Much wow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Since you reminded me in another post. Thats the best you got? He served 1 year as an elector in that party. Such communist.... Much wow....
    I am sure that if it was about Trump joining a nazi party you would dismiss it as well, right ? No hypocrisy here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    I am sure that if it was about Trump joining a nazi party you would dismiss it as well, right ? No hypocrisy here
    Don't need him to join the nazi party to see he is a racist. He has already shown that plenty himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    OP is on a mindless anti-Sanders crusade because Washington Post and Warren told him "Sanders is a bigot" and believed it.

    Just another upper middle-class privileged person who doesn't want harm to come to corporations and the neoliberal status quo.
    I'm guessing Sanders must be set to really sweep this primary if they are throwing literally everything and the kitchen sink at Sanders.

    Who knew Democrats were so against National Health Care and Debt cancellation.
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