Feral or DH for world pvp fun?

[Tyrannica]

you obviously do not play this game.

Balance is one of the worst PvP specs in the game, all it has is starsurge, it has no utility, its heals are nerfed, and if you don't have the right azerite talents, you are dead.

" Feral still has flight form " Flight form can't be used in combat, and if you have to root and fly away you've essentially are saying i can't win,and if they break the root, good luck running, Mobility is a void point since everyone has mobility, heal you get free sprint potions from bg's, plenty of 150% move speed potions in the A.H azerite talents that give movement speed don't know who you're pvp'ing because it sound like you're fighting casuals or 2 v 2 arena jockeys who have a healer on them at all times.

Oh and if you think Feral Druid has more Mobility than a Demon Hunter you seem to forget that D.H move at a faster speed from mastery 100% of the time, can charge twice, leap with metal, have a talented charge ability , snare talent and the ability to heal off all damage they do with leech. All they have to do is kill a critter and they get like 40% or more of their health back.
soul scape playing D.H https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVv-RjgTaKM

Why talk trash about Boomkin? I know gladiator streams playing still a boomkin some nerfs won't stop them - besides boomkin's niche are certainly bgs, where they still top kill/dmg meters together with pyro mages every day in 8.3. and much more so with proper corruption tiers, they are played in group pvp like most pvp in wow, the boomkin actually is the bst dd spec of the druid no matter if pve or pvp. Feral is just niche in comparission for the purpose of clearing visions fast and duel pvp shenigans as well as wpvp, but there are ferals that do high key mythic+ and mythic raiding as well as arena, too. And maybe feral will become more popular with good corruption gear. Feral, indeed has easy access to good corruption 2hand weapons with a high corruption tier3 on the first 3 +easy bosses of the current raid, while DH does not, there is only ra-den to loot for that.

And that stat mastery is not used by DH, they stack versatility and some haste go figure all the gladiator ranked dh players, mastery is trash in pvp and pve, you got tertier speed stats on gear and longstrider on azerite gear, along with their class mobility they can be quite mobile, but its nothing in comparission of what a feral can do, nothing really beats flightform and the ability to remove roots on will, a DH can easily be controlled and spotted and should better hide in tunnels like soullscape did in his latest wpvp 8.3. DH video. You know what happens next, if you got assassin and have no group?

Insane leech is only possible in old content on low level mobs where it scales differently, btw. no leech will help you and mobility of a dh when 5 people gang upon you when you are solo like soullscape, he dies, too in his videos, but less so as feral, btw you linked a dated 8.1. video, he played feral and dh wpvp in 8.3., too. What are you trying to proove here? It looks quite desperate only for the sake of arguing.

Rather stop posting like somebody who does not play wow and read and understand this feral talent:

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=102543...-of-the-jungle

It procs with vision of perfection and allows flightform in combat.

[The Butt Witch]

The guy made this thread in February. Pretty sure he made his choice by now.

Also lol at people saying DH. DH is the most overrated class in the game. I had no issues vs. DHs with my BM hunter and DK, but people sure like whining about them.

[Tyrannica]

If a DH is losing to you it’s 100% because they are trash at world PvP or you significantly out gear them. The same is said for DKs.

Its not about classes anymore, are you actually playing?



Most burst, the dmg that actually kills you, is coming from non class abilities.

Classes that are good in avoiding dmg alltogether and cc will likely perform better.

The problem with DH is, while he can counter some classes - like warrior - he is weak vs stuns/burst. The current meta is very stun and burst based. Fights won't last long enough for the leech in meta to pay off, this might be just the case in those 2vs2 dh+healer comps, its exclusive.

And just because a havoc dh is a goodish melee in pvp does not make this class a S tier. DH is S tier in pve. Most people only play pve, so they think DH is S tier in pvp too, but thats just in their heads.

Data prooves otherwise.

Same with feral druid, he is not as bad as people think. Ther are feral druids clearing all mythic raid bosses in nyalotha, running 5 masks in visions and dominating everyone in warmode. And in the current raid feral druids have more access to a variation of corruption weapons, DH basicly only has access to a ra-den fist weapon with a guranteed good corruption effect on a weapon.

In arena ferals will probably never be a thing, for this rdruids are just too good and viable. You simply do it wrong if you play feral in arenas when you can pferform much better as rdruid. Thats a design as old as TBC.

But i am pretty positive, with trinkets, correct essences and corruptions - like devastating twilight that is hp % based, an actual tank DH should wipe the floor with people in warmode, as long as he stays away from big groups.(like a corona quarantine rule lol)
likewise a geared up havoc dh with a group or at least heal, will kick ass,too, but its not an exclusive to DH any dd should be able to do this as good.

Since warmode is just a slaughter for some groups farming peolpe solo most of the time, threads about whats the best class for this are not really making sense, whats best is what you like to play each week to do these wm quests or 1k kill acms until you get bored.

Maybe, if blizz will develop 1vs1 arenas and warmode with fog of war to prevent big groups ganking people solo, talks about which class is best do make slightly more sense, but in such a case the answer would be tanks and heals - as long as we have no resilence on gear and tank design allows burst dmg.

[FergusonJes]

I would play feral, even though it looks weaker

[keldarepewpew]

My boy ion told me DH will be restricted from entering pvp because unable to balance.