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So Geforce now launched and utilized the Battlenet launcher. So my point stands. They can troubleshoot problems on their software much easier without any third party software involved.
So you admit that I didn't pull any stupid ideas out of anywhere and I was completely right. Gefoce now just streamed it from somewhere else. A middleman mind you. That does nothing but, as I said, muddy their abilities to handle things properly. When you're having issues launching a game from bnet, do you Really expect them to be like "well, lets troubleshoot this 3rd party service you're using in order to connect to our launcher and games"? That's a ludicrous idea at best. Can't expect them to know how to troubleshoot someone else's product. Even then, the best they could do is copy/paste workarounds and if that doesn't fix it, you're SoL.
Just makes Blizzard look bad at that point because a 3rd party software is messing up and making it look like their services are unreliable when, in reality, they aren't. Not only that, it makes their job far more difficult when they try to help someone, just to find out that the game is running on a system it was never intended to run on in the first place.
Again, it makes perfect sense what they are doing and to ensure they limit all 3rd party involvements in their products to help ensure they can actually fix an issue.
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As soon as even 1 GM said no, that its against the ToS, thats it. Thats confirmation saying that its sketchy to use, at best. If there is confusion like that among the GMs, then that means that there is confusing when looking at these cases for a suspension too.
Heck, if the final GMs were the ones saying no, I would take that as a definitive answer simply because it means you spread awareness enough that it was being addressed. Now that they removed them from Geforce now, its pretty clear that its not supported and is against the ToS
Eh, just get a PC, these streaming sites still make you buy games.
Stop riding Blizzard's dick so hard or it might break. Blizzard doesn't have to do a single thing and no Geforce now doesn't mess anything up. It was quite functional hence why all the people that used it are pissed off.
The only reason behind this move is money. ActiLizzard wanted to squeeze something out of Nvidia for allowing Bnet on their platform.
Thats why GTA V , Monster Hunter and other titles were pulled recently. Greedy garbage ass publishers.
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Geforce Now lets you use your steam/origin/uplay etc libraries.
Im speaking the truth, nothing more. It wasn't "quite functional". Just looking it up on google got me so many threads and posts all over, including Geforce own site, about how things broke and there was no way to fix it until Geforce did.
The more parts there is to something, the more likely something can go wrong in any one of them. Throw in a service made and run by another company, and it becomes impossible for Blizzard to properly address issues surrounding its games. This isn't an opinion piece, this is fact plain as that. Can't fix something you don't own.
The major factor here is that these are not buy and play games. These are online games with customers continuously playing them. Without the ability to properly assist them, it makes Blizzard look bad for someone else's screw up.
I could really care less about this to be honest. However, I see the reasoning and its logical. As for me defending Blizzard, as you put it in different words, no. They screw up a lot and its why I cancelled my WoW sub and have barely played this expansion. This is just one thing they are not screwing up for once.
Now, what part of this screams Greedy publisher? I really must ask since if that was the case, Keeping it on Geforce would benefit them more through the sales gained from people playing Overwatch and WoW subs from other launchers. So from a greed point of view, they just shrank the number of people able to buy loot boxes from Overwatch and cut of some subs being payed for WoW.
My my..
Nope you are just saying horse shit pulled our of your ass.
1/ if geforce now had the games in their catalogue it means they had the autorisation to have them.
2 / geforce now was in bêta so they were still working on it. And possible problems with other launchers or games.
3 / there was no heavy problem with battlenet. And if there was, see 2. Blizzard is not impacted.
4/ no statement from blizzard or geforce for the reason so every thing you say is pure horseshit.
5/ many people are impacted by that retarded decision. Not being able to play the games they bought to use on that service. Blizzard shit on them. Once more.
There is nothing to defend.
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1: False. It doesn't mean they had the authorization to have them. It just means they found a way to host them.
2: If the general public could get GeForce Now at any time and use it, then beta means nothing. Its used at that point to do as it did with you, make you brush off any bugs and accept them. Something most wouldn't under normal circumstances with something that has a Fee attached for extended play length.
3: Blizzard would be impacted with customers who mistakenly thought the issue was with them and thus, contacted them for a solution. There were some issues posted to the GeForce forums now and again.
4: No statement from them doesn't equate to crap. It just means you don't want to discuss reasons nor accept any.
5: Only people who are at fault are the ones who bought an item from a 3rd party and the 3rd party for offering a service it had no guarantee it could sustain nor continue to grant access to. Any company has a right to remove their products from any 3rd party software it wants to if it did not out right give them permission, as well as if they deem that service no longer profitable to continue a contract with.
You are speaking out of your ass as was already proven. You figured it was a good opportunity to do some actilizzard lawyering pro bono.
Whatever is broken is something Nvidia related so it should do the work. What kind of silly arguments are you trying to make up?
Every issue is an Nvidia Geforce Now issue and they have to fix it. Do you even understand how it works? Blizzard doesn't have to fix anything because its not on their side nor would they be able to. By this stupid reasoning Blizzard should block Bnet access to any low en pc user "because it makes them look bad when they try to run wow on their potato".
1 / they had the right to host them, since pretty much the start of the bêta.
2 - 3 / when you launch a game from geforce now and it does not launch. You know it's from geforce now.
4 / no statement from a company that suddenly make impossible for people who bought their games to play it, is a dick move from a piece of crap company. Not much more to say.
5 / people bought their game from blizzard. Thinking they could play them by geforce.
Blizzard rend inopérant their only way to play the game. Blizzard are complete assholes. That's their right. That's still being an asshole.
6 / your arguments are false and pure horseshit
Based on nothing. And you even go to imagine horseshit arguments from blizzard to eat them with a smile.
Weird.
Fucking gross lol...
I get the sense google is even worse run than Acti, when it comes to these side projects, how much shit do they introduce that just fails out the gate. Stadia has been awful from day one, and out of all the companies in the world, Google with their scrooge mcduck money should be able to just throw cash at it to make it work, but they dont.
So why didn't Nvidia have a contract that prevented publishers pulling their games at will? Surely it must be their bad for selling a service without locking down the rights.
Man, I agree that its messed up, but all you can do is shrug and go on about your day. I was actually on OPs side til I read more.
Now, the OP is just coming across as a whiny child who doesnt understand how business works (literally at all). Let's say it is a greed thing and they want to move it to Stadia. It's a good move, a great move, actually because the people that will go "Oh neat" and rebuy the game for on the fly play will far outweigh the whinebags.
Hell, not gonna lie, if they do go to Stadia (and confirm it wont get you banned to play), it might be the first time I take Stadia seriously and give it a go.
I mean, they are a company and their sole goal is to make money, soooo yeah they are going to follow the money. Why are you mad at them? it is not their responsibility to make an alternative for you. If they go to Stadia because they were offered more money, then complain to Stadia. Companies do not owe you anything, likewise you are not forced to use their products if you are unhappy.
From reading all the OP's posts they do come off as a entitled whiny brat.. And it is up to Activision as they own the IP's to say yay or nay if GeForce Now can do this.. And since they can't nothing more can be done about it, until Activision give Nvidia the okay to supply the games..
So does Steam. And they managed to intrgrate it.
As to making blizzard look bad, they could just throw in a disclaimer when launched informing you that's not supported but allowed.
Same as it was with latency reducing services. I knew it wasn't blizzard's fault that I would get disconnected ilwhen heavy aoe happened.
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