The only hard part of classic is getting the motivation to even log in once you have cleared everything once.
The only hard part of classic is getting the motivation to even log in once you have cleared everything once.
Yes, because 1 MC clear awards you with Hand of Rag, Thunderfury, full T1 and all offset epics, 1 BWL clear gives you Tear, Ash'Kandi and full tier 2, and 1 Naxx clear gives you Ati'esh and full T3. Sorry, this isn't retail, which had 5 drops for 20 people. This is classic, where the boss drops 2-3 items for 40 people.
The problem seemed to be you didn't have fun in your raids. I can guarantee you banter during raids and having a good time is what's kept alot of my guildies sane during these tough times of quarantines and lockdowns around the world.
Note: my guild has 120+ rag kills from start of Classic, we have yet to see Eye of Sulfuras drop. We've made 5 Thunderfurys though, so meh.
Man mythic+ only drops 2 fucking items for the whole group for the entire 40 minute run. And it's only 210 gear! Below heroic raid ilvl for a goddamn +15 where you need to be an elite team of Navy Seals to time that shit without class stacking to the moon. So fuck me if I'm gonna be lectured about how loot is so hard to get in classic. You can literally sit there for 40 fucking hours grinding some of the hardest content to ever exist in the game and you'll get like 1-2 items that aren't even heroic level.
The nerve man. The nerve. Ya see what I mean?
Lol well okay dude. Once again, you entered a conversation where people were talking about lfr, you responded with “there are varying difficulties of lfr” and started listing fights in lfr that were raid wipers. So I responded letting you know that you’re take on lfr is irrelevant considering we are talking about lfr as a whole not the outliers that might be more difficult than others.
I honestly can’t believe I had to walk you through that.
Mah dude, when I was Arena-ing in TBC to get Gladiator gear for my druid so I can tank in raids, cause Resilience was an amazing tanking stat to reach crit-immunity, I was getting a measly 500 arena points every week at 2,000+ rating to buy a weapon that costed 3,750 arena points. Or however much it was for 2handers, I think it was 3,750.
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That was me, I was the one listing LFR raid-wipers, to show that from the hundreds of available bosses in LFR, only a small handful (5? 6? 8 maximum?) can actually wipe the raid with their mechanics, whereas the other 99% of LFR fights are AFK-able.
You know what the odds are of getting a Mirror of Kalandra? Got over 7000 hours and I've never fucking seen one.
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I made 2 posts.
The first was me saying Sludgefist says hi, in response to a dude claiming normal mechanics are irrelevant.
My second post, which I actually put less thought into mind you, despite it being more words, was me explaining to someone that LFR varies by boss and tier. Which was not me making an argument, because I don't give a flying fuck about LFR. I was just sick of reading those other 2 guys talk past each other when they were obviously talking about different versions of LFR and neither of them realized it. I was trying to be fucking helpful.
But thank you. I have now been cured of my sometimes helpful syndrome. Just gonna be an asshole from now on. It's less work.
You did too, but he was specifically talking about things like nzoth which is what I was responding to
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No problem, if you just read peoples posts next time and see what they are referring to maybe it will make your job easier and not be confused about what’s going on in the conversation.
I listed N'zoth and WoD as examples of how LFR differs by boss and tier, trying to be helpful to get those 2 other guys to understand what the fuck they were saying to each other.
And if you wanted to talk to me about LFR, why in the sam hell did you respond to my post about normal Sludgefist instead of what I said about LFR?
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Thanks man. You're a shining example of how not to speak to humans. How's the weather man? No I don't think I'll be buying car insurance thank you. But I didn't say anything about car insurance? Well you did this one time in this one other place and you're the weirdo for thinking conversations should be linear! Now I'm gonna go drown myself in bourbon to deal with the fact that I'm a colossal retard!
What you said was disingenuous nonsense and I consider that level of dishonesty to be quite rude. 2 People discuss A. You claim that I responded to B when I did not within the context of the aforementioned discussion. You play dumb when I state that I'm confused about why you're bringing up B in this context.
So no I would say you were the first one to be rude. As no one in the real world would ever tolerate being spoken to in that way.
Just because you are trying to use fancy words doesn’t make what you’re saying true my dude lol. I’ll post what I said AGAIN just to try and get it through your thick skull once again.
You mentioned lfr difficulties when responding to a conversation about lfr, I told you how what you said is irrelevant to the conversation, you freaked out and started saying it isn’t relevant. Just because you were also having a separate conversation about normal mode doesn’t make my comments about lfr any less meaningful.Lol well okay dude. Once again, you entered a conversation where people were talking about lfr, you responded with “there are varying difficulties of lfr” and started listing fights in lfr that were raid wipers. So I responded letting you know that you’re take on lfr is irrelevant considering we are talking about lfr as a whole not the outliers that might be more difficult than others.
I honestly can’t believe I had to walk you through that.
You really need to log off the internet if you get this flustered over literally one post.
Ive cleared it in classic already, I also got to kel in vanilla main tanking as a prot paladin. It was not hard. Time consumming does not equate diffuculty. Only reason we never down it in vanilla was we only went in once the week before TBC came out.
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Raiding does not have to be difficult to be enjoyed. But claiming classic raiding is difficult. Even naxx which is a step up is laughable.
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Claiming mythic+ is hard and classic raiding is easy in the same sentence. They are both equal in easiness.
Vanilla WoW wasn't "hard" so much as it was a pain in the ass to get 39 other people to show up to a raid, be competent and all that. The raids were fun, but required coordination, but that doesn't mean the content was "hard". It just took planning and sometimes luck that everyone would be online for raid.
Raiding in vanilla was hard.
Raids in vanilla were easy.
See what i did there?
If you raid for loot instead of progression like most people then yes I can see a reason to keep doing the content. In Classic progression is like a handful of percent of the raids for an average guild so the fun part is very short lived. In retail your average guild can sometimes progress up until the content is about to be replaced, it's a lot more fun when the content is challenging, assuming that you're just not there for the loot.
[QUOTE=Utrrabbit;52951842]Ive cleared it in classic already, I also got to kel in vanilla main tanking as a prot paladin. It was not hard. Time consumming does not equate diffuculty. Only reason we never down it in vanilla was we only went in once the week before TBC came out.
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I look forward to your youtube video then of you MT'ing Kel as a prot paladin in classic (and NO wotlk aint classic, where a prot paladin could feasibly do it with his eyes closed. Naxx in Wotlk was a total joke, and my guild cleared it first week it came out as did a lot of others).
At the end of the day, anyone who maybe hasnt done Naxx and is entirely unsure which side of the argument is accurate, just search this very forum for the person trying to claim they are the "world first" prot pally tanking 4horseman. Watch the video - the "main tank" dies less than 30% into the fight, players standing around literally doing nothing, running around like chickens with their heads cut off - and guess what? They still downed it.
For those who have done both retail raiding AND classic raiding, the answer is extremely clear. The ones with the highest level of insight are the ones who played in vanilla, played in classic, and play retail - but i suspect there is only a handful of us who are actually stupid enough to have done all that.
The question was is classic TOO easy, and to that my answer remains the same - no, its not TOO easy, it is just very easy - and thats totally fine. It was never marketed as challenging or difficult, and only a minority of delusional fanbois actually ever believed it was going to be challenging.