[Movie] Avatar 2: The Way of Water

[Stardrift]

So you trying to say where you live is the sole place to give it bad reviews and that that means everyone (no specified place in your comment) was shitting on it?


Do you not know what "everyone" means? Or would you like to walk back your claim and say people you knew didn't like it?

You're not answering my question.

[Orange Joe]

You're not answering my question.

Cause it's irrelevant.



Either everyone was shitting on it.

which was proven false.

Or

People you knew were shitting on it.

[Stardrift]

Cause it's irrelevant.



Either everyone was shitting on it.

which was proven false.

Or

People you knew were shitting on it.

It's not irrelevant because it would make you wrong, correct?

Proven false? 5 links to hand picked positive reviews is proof that something was negatively criticized?

You're not answering my question.

[Orange Joe]

It's not irrelevant because it would make you wrong, correct?

Proven false? 5 links to hand picked positive reviews is proof that something was negatively criticized?

You're not answering my question.

Are you saying your local area was the only place it the world to give it universal negative reviews?


Bullshit

5 links? There were 100's of positive reviews on the link I gave you (that was only counting actual critics and not user reviews)


Anyways. I'm done with this. I've provided proof that your wrong. If you can't accept that, it's not my problem.

[Stardrift]

Yes, you did. You said EVERYBODY shit on the movie. You know what everybody means right?

Do you really need to ping pong the same harassment across two accounts?

You still haven't answered my question.

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Are you saying your local area was the only place it the world to give it universal negative reviews?


Bullshit

5 links? There were 100's of positive reviews on the link I gave you (that was only counting actual critics and not user reviews)


Anyways. I'm done with this. I've provided proof that your wrong. If you can't accept that, it's not my problem.

Still haven't answered my question.

[Orange Joe]

Do you really need to ping pong the same harassment across two accounts?

You still haven't answered my question.

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Still haven't answered my question.

Let me repeat. Your question is irrelevant. I'm NOT going to answer it until you provide proof to back up your claim.

[Stardrift]

Let me repeat. Your question is irrelevant. I'm NOT going to answer it until you provide proof to back up your claim.

Irrelevant because you don't like it

Still doesn't answer my question lol

[Orange Joe]

Irrelevant because you don't like it

Still doesn't answer my question lol

Does your local area = everyone?

If no, it's irrelevant to your claim.

[Stardrift]

What two accounts? I have one on here and it’s this one. Still can’t admit you were wrong? Sadge.

It's awfully funny how it's these two accounts that start ping ponging off of eachother when they begin to harass somebody for making a statement about pop culture they disagree with, every single time.

[Orange Joe]

What two accounts? I have one on here and it’s this one. Still can’t admit you were wrong? Sadge.

oh come vegas82 you know we are the same person. So much so that we have even argued in pm's :P

[Stardrift]

Does your local area = everyone?

If no, it's irrelevant to your claim.

What claim? That people were shitting on it all over the place? I mean, they were. There was negative reviews everywhere. Even here. Which you ignore for the sake of trolling.

You still haven't answered my question

[Stardrift]

It’s awfully funny that you think calling out bullshit is harassment. And that you think Orange Joe and I are the same person. So, care to prove the positive reviews are lies?

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You claimed EVERYBODY was shitting on it. See EVERYBODY is the operative word being objected to. And you can’t admit it was hyperbole.

Doesn't answer my question lmao

[Stardrift]

What question? You never asked me one I can remember… You do understand that Orange Joe and I aren’t the same person… right? Probably not since you still don’t understand what everybody means.

You got a source for when I said "everybody shit on it"?

[Orange Joe]

???

Did you forget the claim I made? I said everybody was shitting on the movie when it first came out.

I remember comments such as "that was it?" because of the huge hype surrounding it. The movie had no chance to live up to the hype, especially due to the writing. Which is what it was criticized so harshly for.

Back then, I wasn't on the web 24/7. I had the radio in the car, news paper segments, television, and word of mouth to go by. And you, some consoomer geek from Reddit/Twitter with an obsession over articles (and let's be honest, they're fucking opinions pieces, rather than fact. Shit you don't even need a "source" for), asking me for a source? LOL k.

I said it before and I'll say it again. When this movie first released, all I remember were people shitting all over it. Other people making similar statements here are your fucking source.

By the way, how many pop funkos do you have? If it's anywhere above 3 I'll toss you on my ignore list and we can call it done. Annoying having this manchild of a mosquito buzzing in people's ears anytime they criticize its most beloved things.

What claim? That people were shitting on it all over the place? I mean, they were. There was negative reviews everywhere. Even here. Which you ignore for the sake of trolling.

You still haven't answered my question

You got a source for when I said everybody shit on it?

Mic drop.

I'm out

[Stardrift]

Mic drop.

I'm out

What's the second paragraph doing here?

Also, I was paraphrasing myself in that first statement. I had originally stated "people were shitting on it everywhere". That all you got?

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Orange Joe just provided it. So, care to admit you were incorrect?

You haven't answered my question yet

[Stardrift]

You haven’t asked me a question yet. Makes it hard to answer guy who claimed EVERYBODY was shitting on the movie. You know, a claim the second paragraph doesn’t negate or qualify to just “everybody I know”? Being able to find people who dislike a movie is easy. Finding a movie EVERYBODY hates is tough. Hell, even the worst movies have at least SOMEBODY who enjoys it. See The Room for reference.

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@Stardrift all over the place(which means everywhere) is also objectively false. Care to ask the question of me or admit you were wrong?

Everywhere =/= everybody

You still haven't answered

[callipygoustp]

Holy shit, what a crap show this thread turned into. Good job guys.

[Kpmk]

I suppose young people might not know him as much nowadays (doesn't help that Cameron hasn't released movie in 12 years), but way back then James Cameron was as famous as Spielberg and Lucas. Everyone knew who he was. Perhaps that is why it might be important for Cameron to hurry up with Avatar 2: teenagers who grew up watching his movies are going to start hitting retirement age and clocking out, which means a big audience base for his movies will be dwindling. Same reason why CBS rebooted Star Trek in 2009 and why the Star Wars sequel trilogy was made. The Star Wars original trilogy will almost certainly be rebooted within the next 10 years to cash in before it's too late.

Yeah I feel like James Cameron is still practically a household name

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Was browsing through the Avatar wiki again when I noticed that there were now new pages on human naval craft, which hadn't existed before (we never see any human ships or boats in the movie), so I went to those pages and checked out the links in the references section.





Looks like Vietnam style boats. Is that a harpoon gun? Guess either 1. we get to follow the movie from a human perspective (NOT from the traitor! I mean someone loyal to humanity!) and there is going to be a scene where they have an encounter against a big ocean monster (giant whale, giant shark, giant manta-ray, whatever). OR 2. these guys are supposed to be the antagonists, and this is a combat scene between Sully and the Na'vi against the humans (maybe Sully and the Na'vi are riding ocean creatures as mounts?).

Apparently the big boat is called "Matador" and the smaller boat is called "Picador", and they're carried by a mother ship called "Sea Dragon". Is this mothership flying, like the Dragon gunship from the first movie? A flying carrier that carries sea going boats... that's a first. Or is this some sort of Tuatha de Danann style submarine mothership?







Now this is pretty exciting. An underwater mecha called "the Crabsuit". Reminds me of the Cancer underwater mechas from Gundam Wing! And it can fold up! Maybe the RDA will get smart and camouflage it to look like rocks, so we can get a scene where Na'vi pass by... and then behind them, a rock starts moving and sneaking up on them from behind.





Concept art for the second film stickied to the Avatar twitter page. Seems like the Na'vi do indeed get underwater mounts. Strangely, it doesn't appear that there is a nerve queue at the back of the creature's head for the Na'vi to link up with. I also have to question HOW the Na'vi are supposed to breathe while riding these things underwater. In the first film, when Jake was trying to run away from the Thanator, he leaped down a waterfall, and he evidently wasn't able to breathe underwater and had to surface for air. So... what? Have the water tribes invented some sort of rebreather?




This is a new RDA facility called "Bridgehead". It seems that this place might be underwater? There is another image that depicts the new RDA chief here, so this implies that this is the HQ of the humans in the sequel.





These soldiers are clearly fighting against hostiles in a human base, which seems to imply that the Na'vi are travelling to the humans and trying to kill them inside their own habitats! Alternatively, the humans may be trying to reclaim their base from the first film, in which case that would suggest that the Na'vi or alien wildlife has taken up residence in the abandoned facility.







In the first picture with Cameron, we see a tank for storing an Avatar doll. In the second picture, we see pods for human pilots to sit in so they can remote control Avatar dolls. These sets were constructed for the second film, so it would appear that we will have human-avatar pilots. I'm guessing either 1. these new avatars are the protagonists, once again trying to diplomatically broker a peace with neighboring tribes, or 2. the movie will take place from Jake's view. These Avatars are going to pose as travelling Na'vi and join up with Jake's group, and then halfway through the movie we're going to get the reveal that they are actually avatar spies for the RDA.

In the second image, notice the control tower?/bridge in the top left. It has a rather strange slant going down behind it. This might not be a grounded control tower, but might actually be the bridge of a ship. This might be the Sea Dragon mothership that was mentioned earlier.

[Ihavewaffles]

I suppose young people might not know him as much nowadays (doesn't help that Cameron hasn't released movie in 12 years), but way back then James Cameron was as famous as Spielberg and Lucas. Everyone knew who he was. Perhaps that is why it might be important for Cameron to hurry up with Avatar 2: teenagers who grew up watching his movies are going to start hitting retirement age and clocking out,

Dude, its decades until Generation X clocks out, it's baby boomers that r clocking out n they weren't teens during cameron's best mivies 80/90s.

Ur not getting ridd of gen x anytime soon, u millenial rascal