Well, I'm glad Greece isn't following the dictates of people like @Mormolyce anymore.
I'm fine taking in actual refugees from Syria, but last count I read from the Greek border only 4% of the migrants were Syrian.
Well, I'm glad Greece isn't following the dictates of people like @Mormolyce anymore.
I'm fine taking in actual refugees from Syria, but last count I read from the Greek border only 4% of the migrants were Syrian.
I'm unclear on how this relates to what I said.
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So now you love Syrian refugees? LOL.
Also apparently Selio thinks I personally influence Greek immigration policy. And also that at some point Greece was in favour of this? It's honestly difficult to understand what he's trying to say. This is what happens when you form strong opinions on a topic without knowing anything about it.
No, I'm saying I'm glad my country isn't being run by people with the sort of mindset you have. And I never had an issue helping Syrians. Hell, I've said plenty of times the west is responsible in large part for that mess so it's our responsibility to help. What I don't feel the EU needs to do is provide a welfare net for the masses of Pakistan, Iran, Nigeria, and plenty of other countries not actively in a war.
But hey, if I'm doing a bad job getting my idea across to you in English, you're welcome to try any of the other languages I speak. Which would you prefer? Greek?
So what? If the government in Sweden decides tomorrow that... everyone living in Skaane is thrown out of the country and looses their citizenship (if it is Swedish, they cannot strip Danosh citizenship for example despite what you probably think) that would be perfectly fine with you? No laws can stop the government as you seem to see it?
and the geek shall inherit the earth
Don't blame the language for your poorly thought out opinions.
Apparently you think processing asylum seekers as you are legally obliged to do is some terrible burden, but you're quite happy to stick Turkey with it. This is just "not in my backyard" myopia.
You know, Turkey has ~23 refugees per 1,000 population - an order of magnitude higher than most Western EU nations. Greece's is at 0.75, ie 1/30th of Turkey's. Why shouldn't you have to pull your weight?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...gee_population
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Still no source provided, why am I not surprised?
And if you reject asylum cases then what's the problem? Let them in, process their claims, and if they don't meet your criteria then deny their application just like you did with the alleged "79%". I don't see what your issue is.
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The simple fact is, if turkey leaves syria, the war will end and syrians will no longer be refugees. They can return home to start rebuilding.
Because nowadays turkey is the one prolonging the war. Nowadays, the only areas with war and conflict in syria are where turkey is. There and only there.
To be more presice, the only places with war in syria, is in idlib where Turkey supports the terrorists (recognized by the UN and by turkey themselves as terrorists, no one questions that) and in the east of Syria, where turkey is fighting the kurds, the enemies of ISIS... essentially helping the terrorists (AGAIN) of ISIS by killing their enemies.
There is a reason no country helps turkey in syria. No one wants to help terrorists.
Turkey keeps this mess going, they should carry the burden of their decisions, in this case take care of the people of the country they are invading. No one is forcing them to stay in syria and keep the war going. Their choice, their burden.
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and the geek shall inherit the earth
Always fun watching the xenoi tell us what's best for our security and interests with Turkey.
We see how well that turned out for the Greeks of north Cyprus.
Honestly, I find myself in some agreement with Slant on the refugee intake-issue and growing threat of nationalism. Under normal circumstances I do believe it's our moral obligation to help out people in need, but the rise of our nationalist party (Swedish Democrats) is troubling - not just for their xenophobic views but their sometimes very conservative values (that I fear many voters don't think about it as much).
"In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance
No, you can't. Turkey is deemed a safe country. You can't be a refugee from a country that is considered safe. What you're talking about is being an ASYLUM SEEKER. Those are two distinctly different concepts with very different legal consequences. I suggest you read up on the legal texts before accusing someone of being "wrong on all accounts as usual", because I have actually read the legal texts.
Go ahead, "dunk on me". You'd be just about the first to do so here.
I never said we don't have a moral obligation to accept refugees. Are you mixing me up with one of the degenerates around here? Read my text properly. There is a decision to be made which moral obligation weighs higher. And my absolutely intact moral understanding tells me that whatever sobstory is whirling around in your head when you think of this topic, this is what I'm trying to make sure doesn't happen again:
Since you seem to be totally oblivious to what happened then, I'd really call YOUR moral compass into question at this time. But, feel free to make your point. I'm totally excited to hear you explain how it's okay to risk the already way too popular far-right movement in Europe to gain even more traction and have the consequences for everyone coming to Europe be even worse than in the countries they came from.
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Maybe Turkey could stop fucking around in Syria so that the Syrian war would end and the refugees could then be returned to Syria to rebuild.